Under digital surveillance: how American schools spy on millions of kids
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#2>GoGuardian, a company that monitors students’ internet searches, that a student was doing a Google search for “how to kill myself” late one evening.
How is it monitoring searches done at home in the evening?
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#3>GoGuardian, a company that monitors students’ internet searches, that a student was doing a Google search for “how to kill myself” late one evening. How is it monitoring searches done at home in the evening?
Mobile Device Managers (MDM) and a proxy. Route the device'
s searches back to the school's network and monitor via the proxy.
I worked in a school district for a couple years where we did this. Certain keywords in searches would prompt email notifications too.
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#4They will probably receiprocate this amount of distrust at some point in their lives.
But go ahead, treat children like criminals. Perhaps some will even do a good old school shooting and you could finally be proud of yourselves that you have seen it coming. It would let the industry flourish like nothing else.
"Schools feel massive pressure to demonstrate that they’re doing something to keep kids safe" - No kidding...
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#5>GoGuardian, a company that monitors students’ internet searches, that a student was doing a Google search for “how to kill myself” late one evening. How is it monitoring searches done at home in the evening?
Mobile Device Managers (MDM) and a proxy. Route the device' s searches back to the school's network and monitor via the proxy. I worked in a school district for a couple years where we did this. Certain keywords in searches would prompt email notifications too.
Imagine if your sibling/classmates decided to "prank" you by searching up certain terms when you're not looking.
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#6As long as it's limited to school devices and school email/chat, I don't see the problem. Maybe it's just me, but my dad instilled in me early on that anything I do on the internet is there permanently for anyone who cares enough to see.
The problem arises from immediate action on the part of the administrators, stemming from zero-tolerance policies that are usually present. Exercising restraint with respect to these tools would lead to better outcomes, in my opinion.
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#7I can confirm to people that it will only get not only way worse with the surveillance, but under the guise of various forms of tailoring or recommendation system based learning, nefarious actors will use education to condition people to be trained serve the ruling class's interests; regardless of how that may manifest itself at any given time, but will always serve the global ruling class interests.
One may foolishly feel like that mass surveillance and conditioning of students to serve ruling class interests may be a good thing because one is foolish enough to think that "i'm on the good team", but reality is that not only can the other side end up swooping in and take over that wonderful system of total control that was set up, but that "good" team one thinks one is part of, may just, as history is replete with examples of, turn out to not actually be all that good at all once all the power has foolishly been handed to them and the gullible useful idiots are no longer needed.
Regardless of what your political views are, all of us, regardless of how diametrically opposed our views may be, should be extremely worried about so much power concentrating in the hands of anyone at all, let alone in an outfit as prone to fits of totalitarian tyranny when it does not get what it demands as any government.
If Tim Berners-Lee and others are not successful at redistributing the internet and the inept governments does not want to act on the technology corporation tyrants because politicians are too busy salivating over the prospect of total ruling class government control over society, then this is all not going to end well for anyone but the highest echelons of the ruling global aristocracy, that will usher in a new demigod era of humanity.
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mobile Device Managers (MDM) and a proxy. Route the device' s searches back to the school's network and monitor via the proxy. I worked in a school district for a couple years where we did this. Certain keywords in searches would prompt email notifications too.
Imagine if your sibling/classmates decided to "prank" you by searching up certain terms when you're not looking.
in general, you are responsible for whatever is done with your account/machine, authorized or not. if you are doing even the bare minimum to secure the computer, you should not be vulnerable to these kind of pranks from siblings/classmates.
if it's unreasonable to expect a child to clear this bar, then they are not yet responsible enough to be entrusted with their own computing device.
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#9As long as it's limited to school devices and school email/chat, I don't see the problem. Maybe it's just me, but my dad instilled in me early on that anything I do on the internet is there permanently for anyone who cares enough to see. The problem arises from immediate action on the part of the administrators, stemming from zero-tolerance policies that are usually present. Exercising restraint with respect to these…
>The problem arises from immediate action on the part of the administrators, stemming from zero-tolerance policies [...] Exercising restraint with respect to these tools would lead to better outcomes, in my opinion.
In fairness, there are a lot of laws out there that compel teachers, administrators, and school resource officers to take certain disciplinary actions without regard to their personal feelings on the matter. Zero Tolerance is like the whole Mandatory Minimum thing. A judge may know that it is asinine to sentence this pot dealing kid to 10 years in prison, but the law says that's the minimum, so what can the judge really do?
If a school resource officer sees something in the computer logs, or on security video, or wherever, I mean, they are police officers. They may have certain legal obligations that come with having reviewed that evidence. They accessed it, the system knows it was accessed. If something new happens and some other officer ends up reviewing all this information, the fact that the resource officer accessed it and had knowledge of previous offenses will cause trouble for that resource officer.
If you want them to show restraint, then you need to change the laws. Teachers, resource officers, etc, don't have the power to do that unilaterally. We would have to give power to ignore things to teachers, administrators, resource officers, coaches, etc.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Imagine if your sibling/classmates decided to "prank" you by searching up certain terms when you're not looking.
in general, you are responsible for whatever is done with your account/machine, authorized or not. if you are doing even the bare minimum to secure the computer, you should not be vulnerable to these kind of pranks from siblings/classmates. if it's unreasonable to expect a child to clear this bar, then they are not yet responsible enough to be entrusted with their own computing device.
Even baby's have a computing device: the brain.
When do they get clearance to use their brains?