Boeing 2016 internal messages suggest employees may have misled FAA on 737 MAX
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Re: Boeing 2016 internal messages suggest employees may have misled FAA on 737 MAX
#2>The pilot, Mark Forkner, complained that the system, known as MCAS, was causing him trouble. “It’s running rampant in the sim,” he said in a message to a colleague, referring to the simulator. "Granted, I suck at flying, but even this was egregious,” he went on to say, according to a transcript of the exchange reviewed by The New York Times.
People need to go to prison over this.
Re: Boeing 2016 internal messages suggest employees may have misled FAA on 737 MAX
#3>The pilot, Mark Forkner, complained that the system, known as MCAS, was causing him trouble. “It’s running rampant in the sim,” he said in a message to a colleague, referring to the simulator. "Granted, I suck at flying, but even this was egregious,” he went on to say, according to a transcript of the exchange reviewed by The New York Times. People need to go to prison over this.
I'm not sure if the link originally pointed to NYT, but the currently linked reuters report adds a bit more context to the messages.
>Forkner said in one text message, “I basically lied to the regulators (unknowingly).” The other employee responded that “it wasn’t a lie, no one told us that was the case” of an issue with MCAS.
>Forkner responded soon after: “Granted I suck at flying, but even this was egregious.”
Re: Boeing 2016 internal messages suggest employees may have misled FAA on 737 MAX
#4>The pilot, Mark Forkner, complained that the system, known as MCAS, was causing him trouble. “It’s running rampant in the sim,” he said in a message to a colleague, referring to the simulator. "Granted, I suck at flying, but even this was egregious,” he went on to say, according to a transcript of the exchange reviewed by The New York Times. People need to go to prison over this.
Boeing has designed planes that have an INCREDIBLE safety record, particularly when flying in US regulated airspace.
Interesting that prison time is demanded here when a much more simple explanation is that this was an oversight by the pilots in the sim who didn't fully understand the issue was MCAS related.
Millions killed from opioid epidemics, thousands killed from violence and various preventable diseases, huge number of road fatalities do not result in prison time.
The safety record of aviation in the US should be applauded.
Re: Boeing 2016 internal messages suggest employees may have misled FAA on 737 MAX
#5>The pilot, Mark Forkner, complained that the system, known as MCAS, was causing him trouble. “It’s running rampant in the sim,” he said in a message to a colleague, referring to the simulator. "Granted, I suck at flying, but even this was egregious,” he went on to say, according to a transcript of the exchange reviewed by The New York Times. People need to go to prison over this.
I wholeheartedly agree. These are crimes that have resulted in hundreds of deaths.
Re: Boeing 2016 internal messages suggest employees may have misled FAA on 737 MAX
#6>The pilot, Mark Forkner, complained that the system, known as MCAS, was causing him trouble. “It’s running rampant in the sim,” he said in a message to a colleague, referring to the simulator. "Granted, I suck at flying, but even this was egregious,” he went on to say, according to a transcript of the exchange reviewed by The New York Times. People need to go to prison over this.
Boeing has designed planes that have an INCREDIBLE safety record, particularly when flying in US regulated airspace. Interesting that prison time is demanded here when a much more simple explanation is that this was an oversight by the pilots in the sim who didn't fully understand the issue was MCAS related. Millions killed from opioid epidemics, thousands killed from violence and various preventable diseases, huge n…
So you want to use their historical record as some kind of justification for their dismal record with the 737 MAX, as if one is related to the other?
Cold comfort to the 300+ lives, and families destroyed.
Watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2tuKiiznsY
This isn't just some "oops, these were badly trained pilots" – the whole premise of MCAS is seriously screwed up and smacks of non-engineers running the place.
Re: Boeing 2016 internal messages suggest employees may have misled FAA on 737 MAX
#7>The pilot, Mark Forkner, complained that the system, known as MCAS, was causing him trouble. “It’s running rampant in the sim,” he said in a message to a colleague, referring to the simulator. "Granted, I suck at flying, but even this was egregious,” he went on to say, according to a transcript of the exchange reviewed by The New York Times. People need to go to prison over this.
Boeing has designed planes that have an INCREDIBLE safety record, particularly when flying in US regulated airspace. Interesting that prison time is demanded here when a much more simple explanation is that this was an oversight by the pilots in the sim who didn't fully understand the issue was MCAS related. Millions killed from opioid epidemics, thousands killed from violence and various preventable diseases, huge n…
MCAS is a terrible software solution to an engineering problem. On top of that, no sufficient training for the pilots to cover up there awful solution.
There's deaths caused by Boeing's greed and lack of competition against Airbus' new planes.
Re: Boeing 2016 internal messages suggest employees may have misled FAA on 737 MAX
#8>The pilot, Mark Forkner, complained that the system, known as MCAS, was causing him trouble. “It’s running rampant in the sim,” he said in a message to a colleague, referring to the simulator. "Granted, I suck at flying, but even this was egregious,” he went on to say, according to a transcript of the exchange reviewed by The New York Times. People need to go to prison over this.
Boeing has designed planes that have an INCREDIBLE safety record, particularly when flying in US regulated airspace. Interesting that prison time is demanded here when a much more simple explanation is that this was an oversight by the pilots in the sim who didn't fully understand the issue was MCAS related. Millions killed from opioid epidemics, thousands killed from violence and various preventable diseases, huge n…
Impressive spin but not enough to overcome the documentary evidence of deception. Lots of people go to prison for violence and I am heartily in favor of people like pharmaceutical executives joining them.
Re: Boeing 2016 internal messages suggest employees may have misled FAA on 737 MAX
#9>The pilot, Mark Forkner, complained that the system, known as MCAS, was causing him trouble. “It’s running rampant in the sim,” he said in a message to a colleague, referring to the simulator. "Granted, I suck at flying, but even this was egregious,” he went on to say, according to a transcript of the exchange reviewed by The New York Times. People need to go to prison over this.
Boeing has designed planes that have an INCREDIBLE safety record, particularly when flying in US regulated airspace. Interesting that prison time is demanded here when a much more simple explanation is that this was an oversight by the pilots in the sim who didn't fully understand the issue was MCAS related. Millions killed from opioid epidemics, thousands killed from violence and various preventable diseases, huge n…
A lot of insiders say the safe, old Boeing went out the window with the McDonnell Douglas merger in '97.
It kinda turned into a reverse-merger, where MD bosses took over Boeing and heavily influenced the management style and practices thereafter.
Some of the commentary https://newrepublic.com/article/154944/boeing-737-max-invest...
Re: Boeing 2016 internal messages suggest employees may have misled FAA on 737 MAX
#10>The pilot, Mark Forkner, complained that the system, known as MCAS, was causing him trouble. “It’s running rampant in the sim,” he said in a message to a colleague, referring to the simulator. "Granted, I suck at flying, but even this was egregious,” he went on to say, according to a transcript of the exchange reviewed by The New York Times. People need to go to prison over this.
Prison: our solution to every problem.