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Depressed People See the World More Realistically (2017)

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Re: Depressed People See the World More Realistically (2017)

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My therapist said to me once: "I really like pessimistic patients a lot more than overly optimistic ones. A depressed, pessimistic person is judging the world very accurately and is not crushed by a negative outcome, as they have already thought about exactly that. They might even completely circumvent the negative outcome, because they thought about every possibility beforehand. Optimists on the other hand can be crushed and become very depressed when the positive outcome is not the result they are presented with."

Re: Depressed People See the World More Realistically (2017)

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> In fact, "some psychologists concede that an element of self-deception may be necessary for well-being," Feltham says.

I think about this every day, I thought it was an established fact for some reason. Perhaps I thought it was established since I know the saying "ignorance is bliss"

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My therapist said to me once: "I really like pessimistic patients a lot more than overly optimistic ones. A depressed, pessimistic person is judging the world very accurately and is not crushed by a negative outcome, as they have already thought about exactly that. They might even completely circumvent the negative outcome, because they thought about every possibility beforehand. Optimists on the other hand can be cr…

I suppose the next level is to learn to enjoy the negative outcome, from an observational stoic perspective, every experience has a unique quality.

Re: Depressed People See the World More Realistically (2017)

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This statement is way too sweeping... Some forms of pessimism probably reflect that, I'm an optimistic, not-depressed person who sees things that way - but I know plenty of often-depressed people who fail to see their circumstances clearly, and spiral because as a result of it.

Friend: "I'm such a failure and my future is definitely going to be horrible!"

Me: "So, who's judging you as a failure, why does such judgments even matter, and how exactly do you have no options or influence over your future?"

I've had this dialog plenty, and it has little to do with realism.

Re: Depressed People See the World More Realistically (2017)

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> In fact, "some psychologists concede that an element of self-deception may be necessary for well-being," Feltham says. I think about this every day, I thought it was an established fact for some reason. Perhaps I thought it was established since I know the saying " ignorance is bliss "

I'm not sure if self-deception is the correct word. People cannot fit much in their heads. There is too much good and too much evil in the world for a single person to truly percieve. I don't think it's self deception if one tries to focus on good things. It becomes self deception if a person thinks the world is completely good because all they see are good things, though.
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