James Gosling on Richard Stallman [video]

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Post by _ugfj » Mon, Oct 14, 2019, 6:11 PM UTC

James Gosling on Richard Stallman [video]
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Re: James Gosling on Richard Stallman [video]

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Post by sp332 » Mon, Oct 14, 2019, 7:07 PM UTC

There's a transcript https://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access/text/20... This part starts at the bottom of page 29.

Edit: I suspect the professor mentioned there is Mike Shamos and the transcript misspelled his name. http://euro.ecom.cmu.edu/shamos.html

Re: James Gosling on Richard Stallman [video]

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Post by dontkneatte » Mon, Oct 14, 2019, 7:09 PM UTC

> Nobody goes after Stallman because "you can't sue a homeless man"

Re: James Gosling on Richard Stallman [video]

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Post by wiz21c » Mon, Oct 14, 2019, 7:14 PM UTC

Ouch, that's no small claim. I was just learning emacs because it's GPL... But if it was stolen then, well, that's an entirely different story... What about the other tools Stallman wrote ?

Re: James Gosling on Richard Stallman [video]

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov » Mon, Oct 14, 2019, 7:16 PM UTC

What is it, a next generation of #metoo movement? Crowds of developers who were (allegedly) wronged 30+ years ago will come forth with their accusations?

Re: James Gosling on Richard Stallman [video]

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Post by nabla9 » Mon, Oct 14, 2019, 7:19 PM UTC

Summary: Gosling gave the source for two guys in a garage (UniPress) so that they could turn Gosling Emacs into small business. RMS took the code and removed copyrights and made it into GNU Emacs.

I don't think we would have Emacs around anymore if the Gosling Emacs would have continued as a business.

Re: James Gosling on Richard Stallman [video]

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Post by sp332 » Mon, Oct 14, 2019, 7:21 PM UTC

wiz21c wrote: post #4

Ouch, that's no small claim. I was just learning emacs because it's GPL... But if it was stolen then, well, that's an entirely different story... What about the other tools Stallman wrote ?

Well it's big in a gossip sense, but what's actually going to change?

Re: James Gosling on Richard Stallman [video]

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Post by tomjakubowski » Mon, Oct 14, 2019, 7:23 PM UTC

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #5

What is it, a next generation of #metoo movement? Crowds of developers who were (allegedly) wronged 30+ years ago will come forth with their accusations?

"Interviewed by Hansen Hsu and Marc Weber on 2019-03-15 in Mountain View, CA"

Re: James Gosling on Richard Stallman [video]

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Post by tengbretson » Mon, Oct 14, 2019, 7:23 PM UTC

James Gosling sounds like an Uncle Rico.

Re: James Gosling on Richard Stallman [video]

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Post by kstenerud » Mon, Oct 14, 2019, 7:24 PM UTC

Most of this is verified in the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gosling_Emacs