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Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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Spent half the morning trying to work out why drag and drop events were not working properly in code that was working fine and deployed for nearly a year. Finally tracked it down to this obscure bug in Chrome 77 which re-orders drag and drop events but only when your page is inside an iframe that is hosted on a different domain. Looking at the report it looks like this has broken a lot of peoples applications and likely a lot more that haven't yet worked out this is the reason. Looks like a fix is coming in 78 fortunately.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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Spent half the morning trying to work out why drag and drop events were not working properly in code that was working fine and deployed for nearly a year. Finally tracked it down to this obscure bug in Chrome 77 which re-orders drag and drop events but only when your page is inside an iframe that is hosted on a different domain. Looking at the report it looks like this has broken a lot of peoples applications and lik…

I work on drag & drop a lot, especially right now. It's interesting how complicated overall, and how many different (code) solutions there are to the general drag & drop UX problem. I was consolidating ideas/notes from older notebooks a few mornings ago, I couldn't help thinking how it feels like reimplementing human evolution in a different/abstract medium.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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It seems like drag-and-drop is out of fashion. I think big reason is that it really cannot be done well on touch-screen devices and touchpads. I don't really complain, because I have always found d&d rather impractical (and it's also terrible for accessibility); unfortunately, there are some applications that still rely on it a lot.

(As an aside, what bothers me more that the right-click menu goes out of fashion. That I feel is a bigger usability problem.)

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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It seems like drag-and-drop is out of fashion. I think big reason is that it really cannot be done well on touch-screen devices and touchpads. I don't really complain, because I have always found d&d rather impractical (and it's also terrible for accessibility); unfortunately, there are some applications that still rely on it a lot. (As an aside, what bothers me more that the right-click menu goes out of fashion. Tha…

> cannot be done well on touch-screen devices

I literally just drag-and-dropped that text on a phone.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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It seems like drag-and-drop is out of fashion. I think big reason is that it really cannot be done well on touch-screen devices and touchpads. I don't really complain, because I have always found d&d rather impractical (and it's also terrible for accessibility); unfortunately, there are some applications that still rely on it a lot. (As an aside, what bothers me more that the right-click menu goes out of fashion. Tha…

> cannot be done well on touch-screen devices I literally just drag-and-dropped that text on a phone.

Good for you! I personally find it difficult to do it without a mouse.

And even with mouse it's error prone, you might accidentally move your mouse during clicking on something, and d&d something somewhere that you don't really want to (classic example is moving folder into another folder in the file open dialog).

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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Spent half the morning trying to work out why drag and drop events were not working properly in code that was working fine and deployed for nearly a year. Finally tracked it down to this obscure bug in Chrome 77 which re-orders drag and drop events but only when your page is inside an iframe that is hosted on a different domain. Looking at the report it looks like this has broken a lot of peoples applications and lik…

I work on drag & drop a lot, especially right now. It's interesting how complicated overall, and how many different (code) solutions there are to the general drag & drop UX problem. I was consolidating ideas/notes from older notebooks a few mornings ago, I couldn't help thinking how it feels like reimplementing human evolution in a different/abstract medium.

Agreed, it's a much harder problem to get right than it looks on the surface "sure I can add drag & drop easily!". Like a lot of things in software...

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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I switched to Firefox after they stopped caring about usability issues (like right clicking without releasing left mouse button deselects the text since v fifty-something on windows), the difficulties they created for ad blockers, the account integration fiasco, and so on.

I know this particular bug seems to be an edge case that may happen with every browser, but when you are using Chrome, you should know that if an issue doesn't affect Google, it will likely be deprioritized a lot.

I'm not a self-acclaimed internet freedom fighter, I'm actually very pragmatic, and I'd still humbly suggest everyone to give Firefox a try.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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post #9

I switched to Firefox after they stopped caring about usability issues (like right clicking without releasing left mouse button deselects the text since v fifty-something on windows), the difficulties they created for ad blockers, the account integration fiasco, and so on. I know this particular bug seems to be an edge case that may happen with every browser, but when you are using Chrome, you should know that if an…

> like right clicking without releasing left mouse button deselects the text since

The text selection in the dev tools is woeful as well

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