San Francisco, Hostage to the Homeless
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San Francisco, Hostage to the Homeless
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#2City Journal is pretty weird. It used to be a mainstream magazine of urban planning, but now it seems to have been infected with the far-right brain virus.
Edit: I also can't believe that an article on San Francisco homelessness never once mentions zoning laws.
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#3City Journal is pretty weird. It used to be a mainstream magazine of urban planning, but now it seems to have been infected with the far-right brain virus. Edit: I also can't believe that an article on San Francisco homelessness never once mentions zoning laws.
I'm not aware of the local news outlets or leanings, but my visits over the last few years are pretty consistent with what I've read in this article. It's an undeniable problem and the current response is clearly not working.
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#4Was just listening to https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07q4ngz (WS More or Less: Does San Francisco have more rough sleepers than Britain).
Spoiler: Yes. The city of 900,000 has more rough sleepers / homeless than the country of 65 million.
And I think England has way too many homeless. Don't really see any out where I live (rural town in Hampshire) but I do see a lot of unfortunate ones in the cities.
At least compared to where I grew up where there were very few homeless people https://www.quora.com/Are-there-homeless-people-in-Norway
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#5Was just listening to https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07q4ngz (WS More or Less: Does San Francisco have more rough sleepers than Britain). Spoiler: Yes. The city of 900,000 has more rough sleepers / homeless than the country of 65 million. And I think England has way too many homeless. Don't really see any out where I live (rural town in Hampshire) but I do see a lot of unfortunate ones in the cities. At least com…
There was a Ross Kemp episode about how the British counts of rough sleepers could be very wrong; many towns with official counts of zero having visible dozens, etc.
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#6Why do we expect that people should live in house or have a home?
Maybe we need to design our cities and public places in a way that they would be approachable for people living outside?
Why we wouldn't have camping spots in cities with infrastructure that supports living outside?
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#7It is strange that this subject gets so much attention but so little actual investigation. It is asserted that San Francisco simply backed off from enforcement and then this happened, but the reality is far more complex. Heavy ongoing use of incarceration caused both a backlash and extreme expense. Troubled people from all over the globe come to San Francisco. Most homeless only stay in the City for a couple of weeks before moving on. Making it sound like deciding to enforce crimes would be easy and cheap and fix the problem is a gross distortion of what is going on and what resources are available.
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#8City Journal is pretty weird. It used to be a mainstream magazine of urban planning, but now it seems to have been infected with the far-right brain virus. Edit: I also can't believe that an article on San Francisco homelessness never once mentions zoning laws.
I'm quite curious, what did you find far-right about this article? I thought it was quite centrist, moderate, gentle.
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#9A New York author suggesting to Californians how to police is a bit... tilting at windmills?
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#10Was just listening to https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07q4ngz (WS More or Less: Does San Francisco have more rough sleepers than Britain). Spoiler: Yes. The city of 900,000 has more rough sleepers / homeless than the country of 65 million. And I think England has way too many homeless. Don't really see any out where I live (rural town in Hampshire) but I do see a lot of unfortunate ones in the cities. At least com…
There was a Ross Kemp episode about how the British counts of rough sleepers could be very wrong; many towns with official counts of zero having visible dozens, etc.
That was covered in the podcast. Their conclusion however was that since England and San Francisco both used the same methodology, they're probably wrong in the same direction and by roughly the same amount.
So while you cannot conclusively say that SF has more rough sleepers than all of England (not Britain) it's not unreasonable to believe so, and either way the actual numbers are probably very close.