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A Texas Ranger got a prolific serial killer to talk

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Re: A Texas Ranger got a prolific serial killer to talk

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I once got a chance to chat with a psychologist who worked for the Rangers. I ran into him at the Schlitterbahn water park south of Austin, and talked while we waited for family members to finish their rides. He was involved with tracking down members of MS-13, the Latino gang. They're known for being particularly violent, so he was pretty eager to find them and get them prosecuted.

One piece of Ranger history I didn't know was that their badges are made from Mexican 5-Peso silver coins.

https://www.americancowboy.com/people/history-texas-ranger-b...

Re: A Texas Ranger got a prolific serial killer to talk

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He only talked cause he had nothing to lose. The ranger didn't really have much to do with it

If that's true, he would've talked a long time ago. He refused to talk to many investigators from various states who also could've gotten the same letter not seeking the death penalty (presuming the guy was already convicted for life), only Holland got him to talk. So, yes Holland is partly if not entirely responsible for getting him to talk.

Re: A Texas Ranger got a prolific serial killer to talk

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post #4

He only talked cause he had nothing to lose. The ranger didn't really have much to do with it

If that's true, he would've talked a long time ago. He refused to talk to many investigators from various states who also could've gotten the same letter not seeking the death penalty (presuming the guy was already convicted for life), only Holland got him to talk. So, yes Holland is partly if not entirely responsible for getting him to talk.

I read the article, Holland definitely got the guy to talk through unconventional means. He has killers draw their victims. He seems unaffected by the flat way the killer describes his victims. It’s almost like becoming the killers “advocate” (lack of a better word) instead of prosecutor.

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Pressed about his life story, Little traced the urge to kill to his youth. He said he got his first erection in kindergarten when he watched his teacher touch her neck. Later in grade school, he dreamed of killing a girl who stroked her neck while teasing him.

He said it, but I have trouble believing that. There had to be something before that, perhaps something too far back to remember?

Re: A Texas Ranger got a prolific serial killer to talk

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Kind of sickening how he builds up his ego and tells him he loves him. Seems like that kind of treatment could potentially skew the accuracy of the confession.

“Hmm, I like being loved and praised and fed milkshakes here in prison, I’m going to keep talking, even if it isn’t true!”

Re: A Texas Ranger got a prolific serial killer to talk

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Kind of sickening how he builds up his ego and tells him he loves him. Seems like that kind of treatment could potentially skew the accuracy of the confession. “Hmm, I like being loved and praised and fed milkshakes here in prison, I’m going to keep talking, even if it isn’t true!”

So do you think the 53 cases they have linked to his confessions are all wrong then?

Bringing closure to the people involved in those deaths is worth being nice to a serial killer.

Re: A Texas Ranger got a prolific serial killer to talk

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Kind of sickening how he builds up his ego and tells him he loves him. Seems like that kind of treatment could potentially skew the accuracy of the confession. “Hmm, I like being loved and praised and fed milkshakes here in prison, I’m going to keep talking, even if it isn’t true!”

You are dealing with the darkest depths of humanity to get these confessions. Sure as hell beats using torture and duress to extract this info. I’m not sure how someone would be able to convincingly lie about multiple murders if they were lying. Most details aren’t public. I have not had any close family become victims of a violent crime so I don’t know how important the confession is to these families, but it seems to mean a lot to many of them.

Re: A Texas Ranger got a prolific serial killer to talk

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Pressed about his life story, Little traced the urge to kill to his youth. He said he got his first erection in kindergarten when he watched his teacher touch her neck. Later in grade school, he dreamed of killing a girl who stroked her neck while teasing him. He said it, but I have trouble believing that. There had to be something before that, perhaps something too far back to remember?

It shouldn't be that hard to believe. The reality is some people are born with biologically or structurally dysfunctional brains.

Is it hard for you to believe that someone could be born with schizophrenia? What about autism? What about poor impulse control?

When you think about the complicated interplay of social interaction in HEALTHY humans, which includes their innate capacity for violence (We definitely are part hunters with a propensity for war), and you compare the things we know that can go wrong and produce mental deficits of one form or another, it really shouldn't be that surprising that some people in the population would also be born with distinctly anti-social tendencies of one form or another.

Brains are complicated... there's all kinds of interesting things that happen too that may be related. For example, the disgust response of humans is typically lessened or even reversed during sexual arousal. So you can have almost a complete flip in behavior depending on context! The regions of the brain responsible for aggression and sexual arousal are also really close together and related. So is this really that much of a stretch?

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