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Looking Back at the Snowden Revelations

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Re: Looking Back at the Snowden Revelations

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Isn't the practice of the NSA just plainly treason? And why would it not be?

Typically you define treason in terms of the needs of the state, not the populace. You can come to your own conclusion how well the state interests align with its peoples’.

Re: Looking Back at the Snowden Revelations

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Snowden's revelations proved once again that conspiracies are all false, because it is literally impossible for large numbers of people to keep their mouth shut.

Exactly as we're told on forums, exactly as we're told on TV. This is how you know Epstein is also innocent and why it won't be investigated, because we know people cannot keep silent about committing crimes, therefore we know no crimes were committed.

Re: Looking Back at the Snowden Revelations

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Snowden's revelations proved once again that conspiracies are all false, because it is literally impossible for large numbers of people to keep their mouth shut. Exactly as we're told on forums, exactly as we're told on TV. This is how you know Epstein is also innocent and why it won't be investigated, because we know people cannot keep silent about committing crimes, therefore we know no crimes were committed.

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Re: Looking Back at the Snowden Revelations

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Snowden's revelations proved once again that conspiracies are all false, because it is literally impossible for large numbers of people to keep their mouth shut. Exactly as we're told on forums, exactly as we're told on TV. This is how you know Epstein is also innocent and why it won't be investigated, because we know people cannot keep silent about committing crimes, therefore we know no crimes were committed.

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Re: Looking Back at the Snowden Revelations

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Isn't the practice of the NSA just plainly treason? And why would it not be?

Hypothetically, a benevolent NSA would primarily develop cryptographic security tools for the populace.

True. But besides their interest in acquiring exploits, I think their data collection seriously collides with peoples amendment rights against arbitrary state surveillance.

I know there are some judges and institutions that enabled this madness, but I think they might be guilty as well.

These judges should be accountable to the public in theory.

I am not saying the everyone working at the NSA is a criminal. But maybe Snowden was the only one with perspective.

The NSA as an institution certainly did more damage to the US than most of its enemies.

Re: Looking Back at the Snowden Revelations

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Isn't the practice of the NSA just plainly treason? And why would it not be?

No, it isn't plainly treason. This is the definition of treason:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

Did the NSA levy war against the US?

Did the NSA give aid & comfort to the enemies of the US?

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