The Gradual Design System: How We Built Slack Kit
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The Gradual Design System: How We Built Slack Kit
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#4This design system failed to deliver the highly requested feature of a desktop dark mode for five years (until today): https://twitter.com/SlackHQ/status/531941157283315712?s=19
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#5I've been wanting to do the same type of thing for a while but I feel like the development workflow and tooling is somewhat lacking and it's kind of hard to get people on board. Everyone always wants something a little extra custom, or doesn't want to jump through the hoops putting their styling into the main repo instead of in their react app.
Does anyone have any suggestions for tooling to enable us to build something like this?
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#6It seems like Slack built themselves a toolbox like Bootstrap or Material Design Lite or similar but for their own style guide. I've been wanting to do the same type of thing for a while but I feel like the development workflow and tooling is somewhat lacking and it's kind of hard to get people on board. Everyone always wants something a little extra custom, or doesn't want to jump through the hoops putting their sty…
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#7>What does a button look like in Slack? How do you build it? What words do you put in it? It was up to individual teams to make these decisions.
I am really surprised that their engineering org took so long to see the long-term payoff of common CSS components/styling when it comes to linting, minifying, and caching on web and sizing/spacing/scaling on native mobile. I am even more surprised that their product team didn't consider a unifying "brandfeel" from the get-go. If your goal is to _scale_ and _scale fast_ while being a judicious steward of VC monies... wouldn't you want to eliminate as much wheel-reinventing as possible?
I say this without any gratuitous negativity/internet holier-than-thouism... I just wouldn't expect this level of "bespoke craftsmanship" for a solved problem like common theming/styling in a engineering org at their series F stage with Accel, a16z, and KPCB already on the cap table. Weird.
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#8I've attempted it so many times, and whilst I learn things and get a bit better with each attempt, I've never succeeded, or have only succeeded for a short time before things get back to being messy again.
The problem is the edge cases. It's just like writing an API, covering it with tests and being sure it's done, then someone coming to you with a new feature idea and you have to tack something on awkwardly or add a special case to make it work, just this once.
Fast forward a year of this and your shiny new API is now the legacy mess everyone wants to refactor. Exact same thing happens with design systems and component libraries. You can't design for the UI usecases that haven't occurred to you yet, and when they come up, your shiny design system likely won't flex to accommodate that.. so you just tack on that one thing :-)
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#9>In 2016, Slack was two years old and already used by millions of people. Our codebase had grown rapidly, and like many companies that focused on product/market fit, our code was built in a way that favored time-to-market over maintainability, consistency, or reusability. >What does a button look like in Slack? How do you build it? What words do you put in it? It was up to individual teams to make these decisions. I…
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#10>In 2016, Slack was two years old and already used by millions of people. Our codebase had grown rapidly, and like many companies that focused on product/market fit, our code was built in a way that favored time-to-market over maintainability, consistency, or reusability. >What does a button look like in Slack? How do you build it? What words do you put in it? It was up to individual teams to make these decisions. I…
We had a pretty good idea what needed to happen to fix it, but there was a ton of work happening to maintain our same quality at scale across all of our feature teams. When you're focused on maintaining and building toward better reliability, it's harder to slow down and centralize principles, components, etc.
In the end, it's difficult to get people to agree to one thing, much more so when you're adding more and more people to the mix. We're in a much better place now. More than just having an interface library, we've created a framework for debating the various parts of the system and reinforcing that understanding that was missing early on.