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Did Setting a Timeline Doom the Fight Against Global Warming?

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Re: Did Setting a Timeline Doom the Fight Against Global Warming?

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Climate change was never going to be reversible with behavioral measures. Even if everyone had followed the Kyoto protocol to the letter starting in 1992 that wasn’t going to avert climate change, because nobody contemplated how quickly China and India would develop. There is no calculus where you can significantly limit climate change through behavioral measures that also allow the third world to have comfortable, modern lives. There will be 400 million people in Nigeria by 2050 and there is no political regime to address climate the change that’s workable unless it allows them to live a life at least as decent as say Eastern Europe. The west could reduce GHG emissions to zero and it wouldn’t do the trick.

People have viewed climate change as a political issue and its not. It’s a scientific issue. It’s the astroid hurtling toward earth in the movie Armageddon or the aliens in Independence Day. The solution to climate change is not governments and politicians and lawyers. It’s engineers. It’s always been engineers.

Re: Did Setting a Timeline Doom the Fight Against Global Warming?

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There was a lot of talk about how the world will be "uninhabitable by 2050" or "civilization will crumble by 2050" and anecdotally, that really backfired for all my elderly aunts and uncles. They happily admit that climate change is real but don't care because they will be dead by 2040. Hell, I'll be in my 80's.

Re: Did Setting a Timeline Doom the Fight Against Global Warming?

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It annoys me when people act like Y2K was apocalyptic scaremongering. No, Y2K was a real threat, which the human race spent huge resources to meet and thereby mitigated appropriately.

I remember my father, a mainframe programmer, spending years correcting code for Y2K for the bank he worked for. COBOL and assembly. At the rollover, it went without a hitch, but there was a lot of sweat to make that happen

Re: Did Setting a Timeline Doom the Fight Against Global Warming?

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You know, there was this guy that made a fool of Christianity when he predicted Jesus would return in 2011. When nothing happened, he said oops and adjusted the date. (People fortunately paid much less attention to him then.)

Kinda getting tired of hearing "the sky is falling" all the time from environmental folks. When you hear "the world is ending next year, it's gonna be too late" every single year, it seems like a thinly veiled push for suckers who want to make campaign donations and bad laws.

Ironic that the author makes this exact point, and then doubles down on it.

Re: Did Setting a Timeline Doom the Fight Against Global Warming?

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> The only rational path is a virtuous cycle of better politicians enacting better policies and promoting better public understanding of climate change. But as of today, there is no sign the world is moving in that direction.

Suppose my politicians fight the good fight and we enact the necessary policies. What about the other countries, especially those that aren't as well off?

Re: Did Setting a Timeline Doom the Fight Against Global Warming?

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There was a lot of talk about how the world will be "uninhabitable by 2050" or "civilization will crumble by 2050" and anecdotally, that really backfired for all my elderly aunts and uncles. They happily admit that climate change is real but don't care because they will be dead by 2040. Hell, I'll be in my 80's.

They sound like terrible, self-centered people.

Re: Did Setting a Timeline Doom the Fight Against Global Warming?

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It annoys me when people act like Y2K was apocalyptic scaremongering. No, Y2K was a real threat, which the human race spent huge resources to meet and thereby mitigated appropriately.

Whenever I hear whinging about Y2K, I always jump in and say that the polio and smallpox scares were also overrated. "We also spent all that money on polio and smallpox vaccines and shit and look there's no polio or smallpox anymore, what a waste of money that was."

Might not work on anti-vaxxers but it has shut down more than one stupid conversation about Y2K.

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