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YouTube’s LGBTQ Problem Is a Business-Model Problem

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Re: YouTube’s LGBTQ Problem Is a Business-Model Problem

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Happens to all creators equaly because that's how the algorithm works.

It doesn't. LGBTQ is a category that gets special cased in order to block homophobic creators. But it mainly just blocks pro-LGBTQ creators because the homophobic creators are more likely to speak in dog whistles that the blocking algorithms don't understand, whereas the pro-LGBTQ creators speak frankly and quote homophobic speech in order to comment on it.

Re: YouTube’s LGBTQ Problem Is a Business-Model Problem

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One of the big problems with machine learning algorithms at this time is that they have a hard time figuring out intent. A lot of the terms used by the LGBTQ community, have been used by homophobic people as slurs. Yes it is great that the community is reclaiming those words, but current ML tech has no way of distinguishing when those terms are being used by the community in a respectful manner from where they are used by homophobic people to promote hate.

This is also the case with African Americans, and there is a similar problem of machine learning flagging African American content as hate speech. https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/8/15/20806384/social-media-h...

The problem may be that we cannot depend on machine learning algorithms to do an acceptable job of moderation, and that a lot more humans need to be hired as moderates. However, doing that really changes the economics of the platform

Re: YouTube’s LGBTQ Problem Is a Business-Model Problem

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post #5

Happens to all creators equaly because that's how the algorithm works.

It doesn't. LGBTQ is a category that gets special cased in order to block homophobic creators. But it mainly just blocks pro-LGBTQ creators because the homophobic creators are more likely to speak in dog whistles that the blocking algorithms don't understand, whereas the pro-LGBTQ creators speak frankly and quote homophobic speech in order to comment on it.

If this is the case, that's tragic in the dramatic sense -- LGBT groups fighting algorithms that are protecting them, because they can't appreciate the unseen danger prevented.

I also imagine the 'algorithms' are a moving target, which makes me think this should be settled quickly if not dismissed, as Google tries to correct this. But certainly a lawsuit should bump this up the engineering priority list.

Re: YouTube’s LGBTQ Problem Is a Business-Model Problem

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One of the big problems with machine learning algorithms at this time is that they have a hard time figuring out intent. A lot of the terms used by the LGBTQ community, have been used by homophobic people as slurs. Yes it is great that the community is reclaiming those words, but current ML tech has no way of distinguishing when those terms are being used by the community in a respectful manner from where they are us…

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