FCC closes telemarketing loophole used by scammers
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FCC closes telemarketing loophole used by scammers
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Re: FCC closes telemarketing loophole used by scammers
#2They haven’t fixed it. They just made what scammers do illegal for one more reason. Unless they make telecommunication operators liable, this will remain a problem.
Re: FCC closes telemarketing loophole used by scammers
#3I would argue that the legality of this doesn't matter; there's a huge technical problem in that there's no authenticity guarantees at all when it comes to caller ID and the entire feature is badly designed and has always been open to abuse.
SHAKEN/STIR is the (technical) answer to this, though I'll be interested to see to what extent it's adopted.
Re: FCC closes telemarketing loophole used by scammers
#4Great! I'll tell all the scammers calling my phone that what they're doing is illegal. That should stop them.
Re: FCC closes telemarketing loophole used by scammers
#5I would argue that the legality of this doesn't matter; there's a huge technical problem in that there's no authenticity guarantees at all when it comes to caller ID and the entire feature is badly designed and has always been open to abuse. SHAKEN/STIR is the (technical) answer to this, though I'll be interested to see to what extent it's adopted.
The solution doesn't have to be at the phone network level either.
It would be easy enough for a regulator to simply fine any company whose products are advertised or sold through telemarketing.
Make it the companies problem that some of their marketing contractors or affiliate schemes lead to illegal calling.
Re: FCC closes telemarketing loophole used by scammers
#6I would argue that the legality of this doesn't matter; there's a huge technical problem in that there's no authenticity guarantees at all when it comes to caller ID and the entire feature is badly designed and has always been open to abuse. SHAKEN/STIR is the (technical) answer to this, though I'll be interested to see to what extent it's adopted.
The solution doesn't have to be at the phone network level either. It would be easy enough for a regulator to simply fine any company whose products are advertised or sold through telemarketing. Make it the companies problem that some of their marketing contractors or affiliate schemes lead to illegal calling.
How would that work? Specifically:
- which regulator has the power to fine a company when it didn't do anything wrong?
- how would you prevent abuse, e.g. if I want to destroy your small business, I can just spend a few thousand dollars on a robocall campaign selling your products (not even claiming to be you)
Re: FCC closes telemarketing loophole used by scammers
#7I would argue that the legality of this doesn't matter; there's a huge technical problem in that there's no authenticity guarantees at all when it comes to caller ID and the entire feature is badly designed and has always been open to abuse. SHAKEN/STIR is the (technical) answer to this, though I'll be interested to see to what extent it's adopted.
> I would argue that the legality of this doesn't matter; there's a huge technical problem in that there's no authenticity guarantees at all when it comes to caller ID and the entire feature is badly designed and has always been open to abuse.
There is, at least for foreign calls: assuming US provider A gets an incoming call from the country B's operator C, then A has to verify if the phone number supplied by C is in the country phone number range of country B. If there's a mis-match, deny the connection.
Re: FCC closes telemarketing loophole used by scammers
#8I would argue that the legality of this doesn't matter; there's a huge technical problem in that there's no authenticity guarantees at all when it comes to caller ID and the entire feature is badly designed and has always been open to abuse. SHAKEN/STIR is the (technical) answer to this, though I'll be interested to see to what extent it's adopted.
It seems that phone companies won't do anything about it. Nor the FCC
There's a bunch of solutions. I received 19 spam calls spoofing cell numbers. That's a felony
I suggest everyone that get an illeagl robo call to call your rep Everytime. Ask them to block India entirely. The problem would be solved very quickly. Or block all calls from Florida and Texas. The nuclear option
The basic one is just waste their time. Ask a lot of questions. And then tell them you were doing that
Re: FCC closes telemarketing loophole used by scammers
#9I would argue that the legality of this doesn't matter; there's a huge technical problem in that there's no authenticity guarantees at all when it comes to caller ID and the entire feature is badly designed and has always been open to abuse. SHAKEN/STIR is the (technical) answer to this, though I'll be interested to see to what extent it's adopted.
The solution doesn't have to be at the phone network level either. It would be easy enough for a regulator to simply fine any company whose products are advertised or sold through telemarketing. Make it the companies problem that some of their marketing contractors or affiliate schemes lead to illegal calling.
Forget fines. Everyone in the company needs to be charged with felonies under Rico
Spoofing numbers could be considered a criminal organization
Take down every single person
Re: FCC closes telemarketing loophole used by scammers
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
The solution doesn't have to be at the phone network level either. It would be easy enough for a regulator to simply fine any company whose products are advertised or sold through telemarketing. Make it the companies problem that some of their marketing contractors or affiliate schemes lead to illegal calling.
How would that work? Specifically: - which regulator has the power to fine a company when it didn't do anything wrong? - how would you prevent abuse, e.g. if I want to destroy your small business, I can just spend a few thousand dollars on a robocall campaign selling your products (not even claiming to be you)
How would that work for you? You would end up in prison.