8chan Is a Normal Part of Mass Shootings Now
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#2They should monitor 8chan for manifestos and get alerts for PDF attachments.
> It was originally posted on 4chan, later to 8chan.
> In each instance, community members denounced the man’s intentions and informed LEO.
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#3They should monitor 8chan for manifestos and get alerts for PDF attachments. > It was originally posted on 4chan, later to 8chan. > In each instance, community members denounced the man’s intentions and informed LEO.
They do, see the 8chan affadivit in which multiple post screencaps from LEO have ‘(You)’ attached.
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#4One feels compelled to point out that, despite 8chan being a breeding ground of hate, threads by mass shooters are typically removed in minutes and threats or manifestos containing identifying information are forwarded to the authorities, with at least one known incident being prevented by them, a planned shooting at Bethel Park High School.
Which, frankly, is the surprising part since I don't know why any sane person would set foot there. I visited once a few weeks after its founding and it had already degenerated to the point most regular users probably deserve to be on some kind of government list. Going there is just asking for trouble and I would urge anyone curious to look for screenshots instead of actually visiting the website.
Re: 8chan Is a Normal Part of Mass Shootings Now
#5They should monitor 8chan for manifestos and get alerts for PDF attachments. > It was originally posted on 4chan, later to 8chan. > In each instance, community members denounced the man’s intentions and informed LEO.
You think they don't? It's well known 4chan allowed the fbi to scan their servers for child abuse material.
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#6What's even stranger to me is how "normal" mass shootings have become
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#7One feels compelled to point out that, despite 8chan being a breeding ground of hate, threads by mass shooters are typically removed in minutes and threats or manifestos containing identifying information are forwarded to the authorities, with at least one known incident being prevented by them, a planned shooting at Bethel Park High School. Which, frankly, is the surprising part since I don't know why any sane perso…
You need to make a distinction between 8chan as a website and /pol/ board. Imageboards are just places for unmoderated and free discussions, the topics are up to users (especially on 8chan, where they can even create their own boards, which is not possible on 4chan). Most of the discussions there are innocent in nature, it's always the same few boards which create shit like this.
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#8There was a time that it was difficult for me to understand how it was possible that governments in the middle east were supporting domestic terrorism. It was difficult to imagine how normal people were supporting the killing of fellow citizens.
Now, that I see this same trend unravel in the USA it becomes easier to understand. I have seen for the past decades the shifting of what "conservative" means. Extremists were always there, that I knew. But, it has been scary to see how moving what normality is toward the extreme has happened. News, in USA case Fox News, have validated the extremist's views creating an equivalence between "both sides".
In Europe there are similar movements, but, it has not been televised so much. Except, maybe, for the rise of extremism in the United Kingdom.
As interesting it is from the political perspective, it is dishearting the amount of suffering that it is causing. The political discourse is not used to agree in a way forward for society but as a battleground. And, again, news outlets share its part of fault. Diminishing investment in education probably is even more to blame.
The response is not to be angry, but to be calm and help society to value well-intended discussions over sensationalist posts and news headers.
I hope that it is not too late, the last time that xenophobia was not stoped it cost over 80 million lives, this time it will be way worse.
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#9One feels compelled to point out that, despite 8chan being a breeding ground of hate, threads by mass shooters are typically removed in minutes and threats or manifestos containing identifying information are forwarded to the authorities, with at least one known incident being prevented by them, a planned shooting at Bethel Park High School. Which, frankly, is the surprising part since I don't know why any sane perso…
You need to make a distinction between 8chan as a website and /pol/ board. Imageboards are just places for unmoderated and free discussions, the topics are up to users (especially on 8chan, where they can even create their own boards, which is not possible on 4chan). Most of the discussions there are innocent in nature, it's always the same few boards which create shit like this.
Yeah, and part of the problem is that policy allows the bad boards to stick around so they multiply. In practice the bad policy means it doesn't matter how many good boards there are because there's a board next door hosting child porn or something.
Re: 8chan Is a Normal Part of Mass Shootings Now
#10One feels compelled to point out that, despite 8chan being a breeding ground of hate, threads by mass shooters are typically removed in minutes and threats or manifestos containing identifying information are forwarded to the authorities, with at least one known incident being prevented by them, a planned shooting at Bethel Park High School. Which, frankly, is the surprising part since I don't know why any sane perso…
> despite 8chan being a breeding ground of hate, threads by mass shooters are typically removed in minutes
So, it is ok that people promote and help mass shooters as far as there is no direct connection the day of the attack?
> Going there is just asking for trouble and I would urge anyone curious to look for screenshots instead of actually visiting the website.
Is a screenshot of hate speech promoting hate less than a rendered HTML page?
I will imagine that an Islamic extremist site will be closed within minutes of gaining notoriety. Why are we sparing white-nationalist propaganda?