Amazon's Anti-Union Training Video [video]

Absurdity of this video aside, but I just wish there was room in today's political environment to discuss pros and cons to unions and non-unions. There are some pretty good examples of unions being corrupt, there are examples where unions work. There are examples where like Amazon says, having a direct relationship with your employer is the best. Nuance is gone which is the biggest loss.

Re: Amazon's Anti-Union Training Video [video]

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Post by wrong_variable » Sat, Aug 03, 2019, 10:36 PM UTC

Organized labor was extremely problematic for capital since WW2.

The new dealers ( FDR, Truman ) gave organized labor tremendous power because without it the USA would probably have had a big communist party.

They also knew the deflationary period of the 1930s lead to the rise of fascism and nationalism in Europe. So the petty greed of capital was scarified at the altar to maintain peace. They were also willing to sacrifice growth to maintain peace.

We are going through a similar period of deflationary shock, so it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out and ends.

Most likely the source of unrest may not be US but China.

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Post by ethbro » Sat, Aug 03, 2019, 10:41 PM UTC

AndyMcConachie wrote: post #2

I love how they list "living wage" as a warning word.

Among pretty much every other activity. "Showing interest in benefits or plans"

I'd tend towards it being a fake, if it didn't seem reasonable these are the kinds of ends Amazon HR goes to in order to keep their labor pools un-unionized.

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Post by ggm » Sat, Aug 03, 2019, 10:43 PM UTC

icxa wrote: post #4

Absurdity of this video aside, but I just wish there was room in today's political environment to discuss pros and cons to unions and non-unions. There are some pretty good examples of unions being corrupt, there are examples where unions work. There are examples where like Amazon says, having a direct relationship with your employer is the best. Nuance is gone which is the biggest loss.

"The principle is sound but sometimes the implementation is weak"? A question to ask is perhaps, if a Mondragon workers cooperative should have a union?

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Post by lrg » Sat, Aug 03, 2019, 10:49 PM UTC

It's funny how they couldn't get an amazon warehouse employee to stand in front of a camera and read this script.

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Post by autokad » Sat, Aug 03, 2019, 10:57 PM UTC

lrg wrote: post #8

It's funny how they couldn't get an amazon warehouse employee to stand in front of a camera and read this script.

all amazon training videos use cartoons from what I have seen.

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Post by cameronbrown » Sat, Aug 03, 2019, 11:08 PM UTC

ggm wrote: post #7

icxa wrote: post #4

Absurdity of this video aside, but I just wish there was room in today's political environment to discuss pros and cons to unions and non-unions. There are some pretty good examples of unions being corrupt, there are examples where unions work. There are examples where like Amazon says, having a direct relationship with your employer is the best. Nuance is gone which is the biggest loss.

"The principle is sound but sometimes the implementation is weak"? A question to ask is perhaps, if a Mondragon workers cooperative should have a union?

Devil's Advocate: If there are so many examples of weak implementations, then is the principle therefore unsound?