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Launch HN: Hatchways (YC S19) – Internships Instead of Interviews

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Hi HN,

My name is Jaclyn Ling and I'm the co-founder/CEO of Hatchways (https://hatchways.io). We make it easier to get your first job.

More specifically, we help talented engineers who may not shine in traditional recruitment processes (resume + multiple interview processes) get opportunities to prove themselves on the job. We do this by using a practical skill-based assessment as a proxy for the resume, and then matching them to startups for paid internships, as a way to reduce full-time interview processes.

As a new grad without relevant work experience, or as a career shifter without a relevant degree, getting a first job is very painful. You spend months preparing for interviews that don’t reflect the job, you send hundreds of resumes out that go unanswered, and when you actually get interviews, getting through five rounds successfully is like a lottery.

I’ve been interested in this problem for a long time because of my own early struggles trying to get a job. I graduated from a foreign university (Canada), had a subpar GPA, and I don’t perform well in high-pressured style interviews. Somehow, I networked my way into getting interviews at all my “dream” companies. But I got rejected at every one of them and to this day, I’ve never gotten a job I’ve interviewed for. It deeply affected my confidence.

However, since then I was fortunate enough to start and exit a startup. We built a fashion app that made personal outfit recommendations based on your likes, which eventually evolved into a chatbot that provided recommendations to hundreds of thousands of teens. We got acquired, and when I was working for the company that acquired us, I finally realized that the interviews I'd failed at hadn’t reflected my ability to do well on the job.

Mainstream hiring processes are biased towards those who went to great schools, had high GPAs, are native-English speaking, have worked at brand name companies, are extroverts and great networkers, etc. But there are so many talented people who don't fit that profile. We're excited to work on ways of hiring that give them a better chance.

Our practical skill-based assessments simulate tasks they’d actually be doing on the job (e.g. project-based work). Engineers on our end review the job seeker’s code to pick up signals that are important for on-the-job such as: ability to follow a spec, code quality and how quickly the task is completed. An employer pays 90% of the cost only when a full-time hire is made, so ensuring that candidates have job-ready skills is crucial for us. We've found that it works to give people the opportunity to prove themselves on the job: 80% of our internships have resulted in full-time employment immediately after.

So far, we have helped talented engineers get software jobs who would have otherwise been overlooked: baristas and Uber drivers turned engineers, candidates with no local experience (from Turkey, India, Russia, Ethiopia, Brazil etc.), and those with non-CS degrees (linguistics, philosophy, economics, MBA’s, dentistry, mechanical engineering etc.)

I’d love to hear your thoughts and ideas about how we can improve this system and how we can best help talented people who shine once they get a chance to prove themselves. We would love to hear your personal experiences in this space too. Thank you!

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#2
This looks like a great way to help people without a traditional background, I love it!

One question: Do you help employers pick an appropriate salary that is not abusive but reflects the candidates lack of experience? I ask because I myself hired a career transitioner and I had no idea what a fair wage was to pay her, and neither did she. We eventually settled on a number that worked for me and her, but I still have no idea if it's fair.

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#3
As someone who has been a non-traditional candidate in the past, and also leveraged non-traditional candidates as an employer, this is amazing. Thank you for doing it! I would have used this myself in the past, and I'm confident that both sides of your market will find huge value in this!

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I always thought the tech industry would benefit from probationary hiring/apprenticeships to help counter the challenges in technical interviewing - basically this same approach as internships but for experienced professionals.

Would you expand your program to include those experienced in the industry who don't (or won't) perform well in traditional tech interviews?

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#7
If someone from a foreign country, say Norway, contacts you about wanting your help to get a job, do you also help those candidates through the process of getting a green card?

If so, awesome! If not, that’s an idea for possible improvement right there :)

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#8
This seems to have tremendous potential. I like the conscious effort to de-bias the system away from initial indicators (like school, GPA, etc.). Thank you for doing this!

Question -- is there the possibility of an income-share model here? i.e. Hatchways does due diligence in initial assessment + matching and even pays for the candidate's internship at the company, and makes money only when the candidate gets a full-time offer as a pre-agreed upon percentage of the candidate's salary (for the first N months say).

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#9
Hey Jaclyn, glad to hear you're tackling this space - one that I'm passionate about. Congrats on the launch!

"As a new grad without relevant work experience, or as a career shifter without a relevant degree, getting a first job is very painful" - Absolutely true.

I've spent a good chunk of the past few months mentoring a cousin to help him get his first job in Tech. He studied computer science, has a great GPA, can actually build stuff, but went to a not so well known college in California and didn't have any top tech company internships under his belt.

Very few companies responded to his applications (Companies like TripleByte seem to have shifted more towards the senior software engineer category, so I see tremendous value in targeting entry-level positions.

Questions: How do you plan to effectively source candidates that are able to pass your assessment? I think an interesting starting point would be to work with graduates of not well-known computer science programs. I think people generally under-estimate the difficulty of getting foot in the door at reputed Tech companies, when you didn't study at a top 10 CS program, and they would probably be the closest group, on average, to passing your technical assessment.

In my conversations with fast-growing companies in the Bay, I got the sense that the demand for senior software engineers far outstrips demand for entry-level / internship positions. Have you noticed the same trend, and as a result are you working mostly with already established larger companies?

Congrats again. Always happy to see more people tackle this problem. We need to create a more accessible, meritocratic pathway to work in Tech.

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This looks like a great way to help people without a traditional background, I love it! One question: Do you help employers pick an appropriate salary that is not abusive but reflects the candidates lack of experience? I ask because I myself hired a career transitioner and I had no idea what a fair wage was to pay her, and neither did she. We eventually settled on a number that worked for me and her, but I still have…

We do help employers gage appropriate salaries. We place candidates into tier levels based on a.) how well they did on our online assessment and b.) if they have any relevant work experience-- the tier levels relate to salaries that would be appropriate. This also allows employers and candidates to have the right expectations before walking into interviews.
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