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Bond's number is up: black female actor 'is the new 007'

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I’m curious why they didn’t just retire it.

You're curious why they're not retiring a film franchise that consistently pulls in hundreds of millions of dollars of profit with every installment? :)

It will be worth it to see if they'll still pull that much after this change. Can't wait

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You're curious why they're not retiring a film franchise that consistently pulls in hundreds of millions of dollars of profit with every installment? :)

It will be worth it to see if they'll still pull that much after this change. Can't wait

Yeah, is a female 007 going to retain the same borderline “me too” hyper-sexuality of the traditional James Bond character? It would be a strangely empowering move, I think: portraying a male 007 as ‘slutty’ has been accepted, would audiences accept a female version of it? What’s the opposite of “womanizer?”

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I don't see the point of it. Even if it's good, it's not going to be a Bond film, it'll be a film about some sort of special agent, not a James Bond film. Why not create a new original thing, where the lead character played by a female and build on top of it. Why do they need to mess with the existing working formula... I just don't get it. But at the same time, can't say few latter Bond films where all that good, so maybe it'll shake some things up in a good way, although at this point, I don't really believe they can make a good Bond film.

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I don't see the point of it. Even if it's good, it's not going to be a Bond film, it'll be a film about some sort of special agent, not a James Bond film. Why not create a new original thing, where the lead character played by a female and build on top of it. Why do they need to mess with the existing working formula... I just don't get it. But at the same time, can't say few latter Bond films where all that good, so…

I've never really understood the common concern that arises when some established character's race/gender/other-intrinsic-trait is changed (even if it's a different person in canon), where the proposal is "now it's not the same, just make it something new and leave the existing brand name unchanged." I totally understand not wanting a beloved character to change that dramatically, but after enough decades it just seems like a rational thing to try as a story writer. Why start a new universe when we have an existing one that, while quite worn, still has loads of great pre-existing characterisation, lore, and recognition?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will be worth it to see if they'll still pull that much after this change. Can't wait

Yeah, is a female 007 going to retain the same borderline “me too” hyper-sexuality of the traditional James Bond character? It would be a strangely empowering move, I think: portraying a male 007 as ‘slutty’ has been accepted, would audiences accept a female version of it? What’s the opposite of “womanizer?”

Thats an interesting point. I suppose the female variant of womanizer is a "maneater". It will be cool to see what directon they go with her. But it wouldve been even cooler if she made a name for herself with a name or code that hasnt been used before or isnt as ubiquitous. The way it is presented it seems like a low effort way to raise up minorities for social justice.
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