Chronic Schizophrenia Put into Remission with Ketogenic Diet
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Chronic Schizophrenia Put into Remission with Ketogenic Diet
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Re: Chronic Schizophrenia Put into Remission with Ketogenic Diet
#2I feel like ketogenic diet is the holy grail of health. Having followed a "relaxed" version only 3 months now and I can honestly say that I have never felt better. Depression, anxiety, motivation, sleep, fitness has all improved for the better.
Having said that, the "diet" really makes you realize how hard it is to avoid any kind of sugars in food, if you dont prepare it yourself. It is insane!
Re: Chronic Schizophrenia Put into Remission with Ketogenic Diet
#3This is garbage. Contrary to popular belief, remission is in fact common in schizophrenia, so n=2 demonstrates precisely nothing. In addition, there is no evidence that schizophrenics have any brain dysfunction other than that caused by taking neuroleptics for decades.
Re: Chronic Schizophrenia Put into Remission with Ketogenic Diet
#4This is garbage. Contrary to popular belief, remission is in fact common in schizophrenia, so n=2 demonstrates precisely nothing. In addition, there is no evidence that schizophrenics have any brain dysfunction other than that caused by taking neuroleptics for decades.
I'm inclined to agree. That being said, having been prescribed zyprexa for type 1 bipolar, anything that leads treatment away from the standard trope of what in my opinion is nothing other than a strong off-label tranquilizer for these symptoms is a positive thing in some regard.
Re: Chronic Schizophrenia Put into Remission with Ketogenic Diet
#5This is garbage. Contrary to popular belief, remission is in fact common in schizophrenia, so n=2 demonstrates precisely nothing. In addition, there is no evidence that schizophrenics have any brain dysfunction other than that caused by taking neuroleptics for decades.
Yikes. This case study isn't in any way conclusive, but it also doesn't claim to be. You need a better reason than that to write it off as "garbage".
I have bipolar disorder. My uncle had schizophrenia. YEARS without an episode AND without medication is an exciting prospect for many people, including myself. I don't understand why you are so negative towards preliminary findings that may point to a route of treatment that doesn't require neuroleptics, which as you correctly point out, can cause cognitive impairment.
Re: Chronic Schizophrenia Put into Remission with Ketogenic Diet
#6This is garbage. Contrary to popular belief, remission is in fact common in schizophrenia, so n=2 demonstrates precisely nothing. In addition, there is no evidence that schizophrenics have any brain dysfunction other than that caused by taking neuroleptics for decades.
Yikes. This case study isn't in any way conclusive, but it also doesn't claim to be. You need a better reason than that to write it off as "garbage". I have bipolar disorder. My uncle had schizophrenia. YEARS without an episode AND without medication is an exciting prospect for many people, including myself. I don't understand why you are so negative towards preliminary findings that may point to a route of treatment…
Also, it's been known almost 100 years that the ketogenic diet has neuroprotective attributes. There's strong evidence of its efficacy for epilepsy, and mounting evidence for all sorts of other conditions.
Re: Chronic Schizophrenia Put into Remission with Ketogenic Diet
#7It is well known that people with schizophrenia are three times more likely to develop diabetes.
Well. That's significant.
Diabetes is linked to inflammation. So are a lot of brain issues.
I actually came here to note that the brain is 60% fat, so it seems reasonable to assume that the amount and kind of dietary fat would matter a while lot for a wide variety of brain related issues.
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#8Ketogenic diets have been prescribed for people with seizure disorders ("epilepsy") for decades. Given some psychological disorders are also treated with anti-convulsants, it's speculative, but a high fat diet causes a lot of physiological and hormonal (testosterone/cortisol leveks) changes that the possibility of it affecting brain function doesn't seem ridiculous.
Someone with high anxiety who has not tried strenuous exercise with a high fat/protein low carb diet would seem to be leaving opportunity on the table as well.
Re: Chronic Schizophrenia Put into Remission with Ketogenic Diet
#9It is well known that people with schizophrenia are three times more likely to develop diabetes. Well. That's significant. Diabetes is linked to inflammation. So are a lot of brain issues. I actually came here to note that the brain is 60% fat, so it seems reasonable to assume that the amount and kind of dietary fat would matter a while lot for a wide variety of brain related issues.
Popular antipsychotics cause weight gain and eventual diabetes. I don't think that's obscure or controversial, so it seems weird to say "people with schizophrenia are three times more likely to develop diabetes" out of context. Like, are we talking about a large population of untreated people?
Re: Chronic Schizophrenia Put into Remission with Ketogenic Diet
#10This is garbage. Contrary to popular belief, remission is in fact common in schizophrenia, so n=2 demonstrates precisely nothing. In addition, there is no evidence that schizophrenics have any brain dysfunction other than that caused by taking neuroleptics for decades.
I'm inclined to agree. That being said, having been prescribed zyprexa for type 1 bipolar, anything that leads treatment away from the standard trope of what in my opinion is nothing other than a strong off-label tranquilizer for these symptoms is a positive thing in some regard.
I wonder if Wellbutrin/Zyban/bupropion is underutilized. It's well known that people with chronic mental illness, particularly schizophrenia, tend to smoke, as it seems like nicotine helps somehow. So I wonder if a "quit-smoking" drug is really a good treatment, because it enhances the sensitivity of the brain to whatever normally stimulates those receptors.
However, I know a lot of times this and similar drugs seem to stimulate impulsive, almost manic behavior when they are first started. A family member of an acquaintance took Chantix to quit smoking and nearly wrecked his life through uncharacteristically reckless behavior.