Debian GNU/Hurd 2019 Released

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Post by jrepinc » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 9:08 AM UTC

Debian GNU/Hurd 2019 Released
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Re: Debian GNU/Hurd 2019 Released

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Post by jasonvorhe » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 10:03 AM UTC

I'm curious, but why are people still spending time and resources on Hurd?

Is it curiosity or is there some use case for Hurd that I'm not aware of?

Thanks.

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd 2019 Released

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Post by Thev00d00 » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 10:04 AM UTC

> Debian GNU/Hurd is currently available for the i386 architecture with about 80% of the Debian archive, and more to come!

Does Hurd still not support amd64?!

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd 2019 Released

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Post by lol768 » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 10:05 AM UTC

Thev00d00 wrote: post #3

> Debian GNU/Hurd is currently available for the i386 architecture with about 80% of the Debian archive, and more to come! Does Hurd still not support amd64?!

From https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/faq/64-bit.html

> There are currently no plan for 64-bit userland, but there are plans for 64-bit kernelland with 32-bit userland, which will notably permit to efficiently make use of more than 2 GiB memory and provide 4 GiB userland addressing space. Work on this is currently in the master-x86_64 and port-amd64 branches for GNU Mach.

> That being said, you can always run a 32-bit version on a 64-bit machine, it just works, processes are just limited to a couple GiB available memory.

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd 2019 Released

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Post by knocte » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 10:09 AM UTC

jasonvorhe wrote: post #2

I'm curious, but why are people still spending time and resources on Hurd? Is it curiosity or is there some use case for Hurd that I'm not aware of? Thanks.

You don't know the fundamental difference between Hurd and Linux, do you?

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd 2019 Released

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Post by NilsIRL » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 10:17 AM UTC

knocte wrote: post #5

jasonvorhe wrote: post #2

I'm curious, but why are people still spending time and resources on Hurd? Is it curiosity or is there some use case for Hurd that I'm not aware of? Thanks.

You don't know the fundamental difference between Hurd and Linux, do you?

Are you referring to the micro-kernel part?

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd 2019 Released

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Post by Ylodi » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 10:20 AM UTC

knocte wrote: post #5

jasonvorhe wrote: post #2

I'm curious, but why are people still spending time and resources on Hurd? Is it curiosity or is there some use case for Hurd that I'm not aware of? Thanks.

You don't know the fundamental difference between Hurd and Linux, do you?

Hurd is like Mazda Wankel engine. :-)

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd 2019 Released

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Post by blodovnik » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 10:29 AM UTC

What does Hurd uniquely solve?

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd 2019 Released

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Post by jbverschoor » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 10:30 AM UTC

Oh wow, I didn't realize hurd was still alive, and even 80% of the packages are working! Impressive

Re: Debian GNU/Hurd 2019 Released

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Post by unixhero » Sun, Jul 07, 2019, 10:34 AM UTC

blodovnik wrote: post #8

What does Hurd uniquely solve?

Well apart from actually building and researching how to build an OS. This stems from a very very deep seated itch. The answer is "because we can".

It's volunteer engineering; because they can! Also it is not possible to know how the fruits of innovation might materialise. There might be achievments coming from this in a serendipitous way. The Hurd is a process.