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Re: Gmail confidential mode is not secure or private

#3
"Options for recipients to forward, copy, print, or download this email's contents will be disabled."

I simply don't understand how they think they can get away with this foolishness. I can forward, copy, print, or download ANYTHING that passes over my ethernet cables. Your silly UI will ultimately never stop me from wiresharking my own cables in my own home and doing whatever the hell I want with any bits of information that enter my space.

All it does is fool a bunch of less-tech-savvy people into a false sense of security.

Re: Gmail confidential mode is not secure or private

#4
Gmail has no incentive to create anything secure or private because that would prevent them from going through your email to show ads. [This is wrong]

Update! Gmail changed this behavior a while ago. Went under my radar: https://variety.com/2017/digital/news/google-gmail-ads-email...

Thanks!

Re: Gmail confidential mode is not secure or private

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post #3

"Options for recipients to forward, copy, print, or download this email's contents will be disabled." I simply don't understand how they think they can get away with this foolishness. I can forward, copy, print, or download ANYTHING that passes over my ethernet cables. Your silly UI will ultimately never stop me from wiresharking my own cables in my own home and doing whatever the hell I want with any bits of informa…

Exactly. Especially on a desktop operating system. On iOS at least you can have applications give notification over things like screenshotting i.e. Wickr, but if you are on desktop it's stupidly easy to retransmit or download the contents of an email. Maybe Gmail is just admitting that this is the reality (which it is).

Re: Gmail confidential mode is not secure or private

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post #3

"Options for recipients to forward, copy, print, or download this email's contents will be disabled." I simply don't understand how they think they can get away with this foolishness. I can forward, copy, print, or download ANYTHING that passes over my ethernet cables. Your silly UI will ultimately never stop me from wiresharking my own cables in my own home and doing whatever the hell I want with any bits of informa…

>Your silly UI will ultimately never stop me from wiresharking my own cables

Or for the less technically inclined, opening the email on your phone/tablet and put it in a photocopier.

Re: Gmail confidential mode is not secure or private

#7
I'm always curious how the Project Managers working on these projects think about posts like these. It's a very public call-out, effectively saying "this product is not what they say it is and is dangerous." Especially when it's obviously true, I'd be curious if anyone here can speak to the mental state of someone on the receiving end.

For example I was publicly put on blast for something that was false about me. So in that case I just blew it off because it was wrong, and no reaction was really necessary. It was still very stressful though personally and for my family. I wonder how these product teams across Google and FB primarily feel in these cases.

Re: Gmail confidential mode is not secure or private

#8
I like posts being out there like this. I expect many non-technical users will get the wrong impression about confidential mode. Impression is different from the stated words and can be filled in by our subconscious thoughts about the space between what is said.

When words are explicitly said it can cause people to think things through.

Re: Gmail confidential mode is not secure or private

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post #4

Gmail has no incentive to create anything secure or private because that would prevent them from going through your email to show ads. [This is wrong] Update! Gmail changed this behavior a while ago. Went under my radar: https://variety.com/2017/digital/news/google-gmail-ads-email... Thanks!

“We will not scan or read your Gmail messages to show you ads.”

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6603?hl=en

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