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Hong Kong Leader Backs Down on China Law But More Protests Planned

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Re: Hong Kong Leader Backs Down on China Law But More Protests Planned

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“Dur­ing her news con­fer­ence, Ms. Lam pinned blame for the chaos on the gov­ern­ment fail­ing to ef­fec­tively ex­plain to peo­ple why the bill was needed, rather than con­ced­ing pro­testers’ ar­gu­ments that the law was flawed.”

Politically savvy approach, but completely ridiculous. HKers understand exactly what this bill would do to them.

Nothing makes me more angry than bureaucrats with bad intentions treating the people that pay their salaries like children.

Re: Hong Kong Leader Backs Down on China Law But More Protests Planned

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Her discourse is really manipulative, in it you can find your typical attempt to divide people by focusing on the downside of demonstrations (injuries, crime, etc.), on the lie that it is a divisible bill, and on fake low numbers (10,000? more like millions).

This is very concerning. It feels like Hong Kong is doomed to lose more and more of its independence, and freedom of speech, and freedom of press, as the years go on.

I have a lot of friends and family there, and as much as I love China and can understand their politics due to the size of their country, I do not wish Hong Kong citizens to lose any of their rights.

Re: Hong Kong Leader Backs Down on China Law But More Protests Planned

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post #4

Her discourse is really manipulative, in it you can find your typical attempt to divide people by focusing on the downside of demonstrations (injuries, crime, etc.), on the lie that it is a divisible bill, and on fake low numbers (10,000? more like millions). This is very concerning. It feels like Hong Kong is doomed to lose more and more of its independence, and freedom of speech, and freedom of press, as the years…

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Re: Hong Kong Leader Backs Down on China Law But More Protests Planned

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post #4

Her discourse is really manipulative, in it you can find your typical attempt to divide people by focusing on the downside of demonstrations (injuries, crime, etc.), on the lie that it is a divisible bill, and on fake low numbers (10,000? more like millions). This is very concerning. It feels like Hong Kong is doomed to lose more and more of its independence, and freedom of speech, and freedom of press, as the years…

Of course it is going to lose more and more independence. The one country two system was designed to integrate, not dividing China and HK. The independence movement concentrate too much on 'two systems', bringing 'HK is not China' banner in parliament, trying to make China disappear in text books, do you think the central government is going to extend two systems after 50 years expires?

Re: Hong Kong Leader Backs Down on China Law But More Protests Planned

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Her discourse is really manipulative, in it you can find your typical attempt to divide people by focusing on the downside of demonstrations (injuries, crime, etc.), on the lie that it is a divisible bill, and on fake low numbers (10,000? more like millions). This is very concerning. It feels like Hong Kong is doomed to lose more and more of its independence, and freedom of speech, and freedom of press, as the years…

Of course it is going to lose more and more independence. The one country two system was designed to integrate, not dividing China and HK. The independence movement concentrate too much on 'two systems', bringing 'HK is not China' banner in parliament, trying to make China disappear in text books, do you think the central government is going to extend two systems after 50 years expires?

It was always meant to, but people naively assumed that like every other Asian developing country (South Korea, Taiwan, Indonesia, Phillipines) rising incomes would eventually result in a democratic China.

Re: Hong Kong Leader Backs Down on China Law But More Protests Planned

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That is good news for the time being. Let’s hope more comes of this sort of action.

I don't think it is. It seems to me to be playing right into the hands of the chinese gov't. "we gave you what you want then you protest some more? Clearly you are liars and deceivers".

Then more violence by the police, completely justified this time because protesters must be just troublemakers.

It seems a very risky strategy. I would advise against it, or at least think very carefully, but what do I know.

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