Federated Learning
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Federated Learning
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Re: Federated Learning
#2All right, I'm cynical as all heck about ad companies and privacy, but this has me optimistic. Somebody disillusion me, why shouldn't I be optimistic?
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#3All right, I'm cynical as all heck about ad companies and privacy, but this has me optimistic. Somebody disillusion me, why shouldn't I be optimistic?
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#4So instead of sending the data to Google encrypted for them to analyze, it analyzes the data on your device and sends that data to Google encrypted for them to combine the results.
But your data still gets sent to Google. I don't see the difference. It's just another layer on top.
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#5call me jaded but:
If you’re paying for PR firms to produce cartoons about how good you are for privacy, you’re probably terrible for privacy.
This feels like Google’s Joe Camel moment.
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#6First, I've loved that Google open sourced Tensor Flow Federated as a way to encourage the rest of the world to adopt this method of decentralized machine learning.
Second, I was a bit disheartened that this concept had to be explained with a comic strip to make it accessible because I hoped the benefits were clear to everyone.
Third, I read the comic strip, learned new things (secure aggregation protocol, wtf, amazing!), kicked myself for being smug and appreciated the huge amount of effort that someone invested to communicate this.
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#7call me jaded but: If you’re paying for PR firms to produce cartoons about how good you are for privacy, you’re probably terrible for privacy. This feels like Google’s Joe Camel moment.
Think about the researchers and engineers who worked hard on this reading your unwarranted and uninformed cynicism and how that must feel.
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#8So instead of sending the data to Google encrypted for them to analyze, it analyzes the data on your device and sends that data to Google encrypted for them to combine the results. But your data still gets sent to Google. I don't see the difference. It's just another layer on top.
Did you bother to read how this works?
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#9So instead of sending the data to Google encrypted for them to analyze, it analyzes the data on your device and sends that data to Google encrypted for them to combine the results. But your data still gets sent to Google. I don't see the difference. It's just another layer on top.
Well no, if you read the part about Secure Aggregation, Google has no way of knowing which piece of training results comes from which device, they can only see the aggregated results of a batch.
So sure, technically the training results based on your data are still sent to Google, but that's not really the concern they're addressing. They're addressing Google having a record in a database of every shop you visited in the last week and such and that data getting in the wrong hands (or being used wrong by them). What if they could benefit from training on that sort of data, without ever actually storing it themselves?
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