After men in Spain got paternity leave, they wanted fewer kids
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Re: After men in Spain got paternity leave, they wanted fewer kids
#2That's a good thing, there are too many people in the world already. Funny how values change when you actually have to deal with the consequences of your actions, though.
Re: After men in Spain got paternity leave, they wanted fewer kids
#3That's a good thing, there are too many people in the world already. Funny how values change when you actually have to deal with the consequences of your actions, though.
Let's see how we handle going from a 4+:1 working:retired ratio to something closer to 1:1 though. It's very concerning, especially with all these "XX% of the population live pay-check to pay-check" articles. Up until now the whole system was relying on continuous growth to take care of the elderly (both physically and financially).
It's a good thing in the long term, but it might suck big time short term wise.
Re: After men in Spain got paternity leave, they wanted fewer kids
#4That's a good thing, there are too many people in the world already. Funny how values change when you actually have to deal with the consequences of your actions, though.
Let's see how we handle going from a 4+:1 working:retired ratio to something closer to 1:1 though. It's very concerning, especially with all these "XX% of the population live pay-check to pay-check" articles. Up until now the whole system was relying on continuous growth to take care of the elderly (both physically and financially). It's a good thing in the long term, but it might suck big time short term wise.
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Re: After men in Spain got paternity leave, they wanted fewer kids
#5Mind the date:
Economists studying the effects of the original 2007 policy...
Re: After men in Spain got paternity leave, they wanted fewer kids
#6According to the article "Farré and González think that spending more time with their children—or the prospect of having to do so—may have made men more acutely aware of the effort and costs associated with childrearing".
Another (arguably more positive) reason could be that new fathers formed a better relationship with their child, and be extension felt more fulfilled in that relationship. That could potentially then lead to them not feeling the need to have more children.
Re: After men in Spain got paternity leave, they wanted fewer kids
#7That's a good thing, there are too many people in the world already. Funny how values change when you actually have to deal with the consequences of your actions, though.
Let's see how we handle going from a 4+:1 working:retired ratio to something closer to 1:1 though. It's very concerning, especially with all these "XX% of the population live pay-check to pay-check" articles. Up until now the whole system was relying on continuous growth to take care of the elderly (both physically and financially). It's a good thing in the long term, but it might suck big time short term wise.
I'm confused by your reference to people who live paycheck to paycheck. Shouldn't lower supply and higher demand for workers result in higher wages?
At the same time, automation will result in lower demand. Hard to say which trend is more important. Combined, I would expect a lot fewer truck drivers and more healthcare workers.
Re: After men in Spain got paternity leave, they wanted fewer kids
#8Mind the date: Economists studying the effects of the original 2007 policy...
The global financial crisis, for example, hit Spain in full force about a year after the leave policy was introduced.
Yes, I'd been extremely cautious drawing any conclusion...
Re: After men in Spain got paternity leave, they wanted fewer kids
#9While the idea of the article is entertaining, the data is ridiculous.
3 data points: '00, '05, and '10.
The policy came into play in '07. Yet the downward trend was already visible in '05. It barely changed for '10.
A more interesting (and honest) take of the data is in women's desire for more children. It was on a decline in '05, but ticked up sharply for '10. So if I was writing this, I would have said: "After men in Spain got paternity leave, women wanted more kids."
Re: After men in Spain got paternity leave, they wanted fewer kids
#10According to the article "Farré and González think that spending more time with their children—or the prospect of having to do so—may have made men more acutely aware of the effort and costs associated with childrearing". Another (arguably more positive) reason could be that new fathers formed a better relationship with their child, and be extension felt more fulfilled in that relationship. That could potentially the…
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