Red Hat Universal Base Image

#1

Post by UkiahSmith » Thu, May 09, 2019, 5:12 PM UTC

Re: Red Hat Universal Base Image

#2

Post by KillerDiller » Thu, May 09, 2019, 5:52 PM UTC

What a sham. Very few packages are available in the yum repos from the UBI unless one is a RH customer. This will be a nonstarter unless anyone can install any package from the RHEL collection by default.

Re: Red Hat Universal Base Image

#3

Post by zokier » Thu, May 09, 2019, 6:01 PM UTC

It is bit surprising that they do not offer Java UBI image, considering that RH is one of the biggest Java vendors. Instead they are offering dotnet images of all things.

Re: Red Hat Universal Base Image

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Post by xchaotic » Thu, May 09, 2019, 6:07 PM UTC

KillerDiller wrote: post #2

What a sham. Very few packages are available in the yum repos from the UBI unless one is a RH customer. This will be a nonstarter unless anyone can install any package from the RHEL collection by default.

Yeah, I think they'll struggle with adoption over the existing docker ecosystem and they should not be introducing such barriers just yet.

Re: Red Hat Universal Base Image

#5

Post by Qerub » Thu, May 09, 2019, 6:10 PM UTC

KillerDiller wrote: post #2

What a sham. Very few packages are available in the yum repos from the UBI unless one is a RH customer. This will be a nonstarter unless anyone can install any package from the RHEL collection by default.

I think it should be straightforward to install CentOS packages instead.

Re: Red Hat Universal Base Image

#6

Post by X-Istence » Thu, May 09, 2019, 6:12 PM UTC

There's no Python 3.6 UBI 8 image... at least looking at the charts in the blog post.

Why would they do a UBI 7 with Python 3.6 but not UBI 8?

Re: Red Hat Universal Base Image

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Post by KillerDiller » Thu, May 09, 2019, 6:13 PM UTC

Qerub wrote: post #5

KillerDiller wrote: post #2

What a sham. Very few packages are available in the yum repos from the UBI unless one is a RH customer. This will be a nonstarter unless anyone can install any package from the RHEL collection by default.

I think it should be straightforward to install CentOS packages instead.

Sure, but then why stop there and not just go

> FROM centos:8

Re: Red Hat Universal Base Image

#8

Post by hguhghuff » Thu, May 09, 2019, 6:18 PM UTC

I tried to read this from my iPhone.

I had to fight some sort of pop-up multiple times till I gave up.

I did get to some page that were full of corporate speak.

I got the sense that there is an interesting concept in there but can't be bothered fighting to find it.

Re: Red Hat Universal Base Image

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Post by josteink » Thu, May 09, 2019, 6:22 PM UTC

X-Istence wrote: post #6

There's no Python 3.6 UBI 8 image... at least looking at the charts in the blog post. Why would they do a UBI 7 with Python 3.6 but not UBI 8?

Because Red Hat 8 by default ships without an explicit default python version.

See the discussion for the Red Hat 8 release a few days back. It was extensively debated and covered there:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19848965

Re: Red Hat Universal Base Image

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Post by TallGuyShort » Thu, May 09, 2019, 6:40 PM UTC

KillerDiller wrote: post #7

Qerub wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it should be straightforward to install CentOS packages instead.

Sure, but then why stop there and not just go > FROM centos:8

So the complaint is that this Red Hat product is best for Red Hat's paying customers, and that if you want to use Red Hat's products without being a paying customer, you not only have to use the community edition's packages, but you may as well start with the community edition's base image? Am I understanding that right?