Apple is lobbying Californian lawmakers against 'Right to Repair' bill
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Re: Apple is lobbying Californian lawmakers against 'Right to Repair' bill
#2> "With access to proprietary guides and tools, hackers can more easily circumvent security protections, harming not only the product owner but also everyone who shares their network"
Of the many consumer insults present in this entire topic, this one really shows the ridiculousness of Apple's position.
Re: Apple is lobbying Californian lawmakers against 'Right to Repair' bill
#3The tradeoff here is between right to repair, and users having secure, trustworthy devices that will not spy on them. Put yourself in the shoes of an abused family member who lives with a hardware tinkerer who can pwn your device, unbeknownst to you, enabling further abuse (not talking about physical abuse necessarily here).
Just to take one slice of the population as an example, Apple has many gay and trans employees and no doubt users as well, so they are keenly aware of the problems these people can face whether while growing up, or afterwards.
As another example, take a look at the /r/atheism subreddit FAQ about coming out to your family, and read some of the horror stories there. People get disowned, kicked out of their parents homes, physically threatened, and even physically harmed in some cases, just for thinking for themselves.
As another example, in some cultures, honor killings are also a thing.
Users deserve to have their personal devices be secure, even from hostile family or household members.
On the other side is right to repair. I would love to see both sides be satisfied, but I do think the right to repair folks have been too militant in ignoring and dismissing the legitimate concerns Apple has about preserving user privacy.
Then there is the bogus line of argument that Apple is only against right to repair because they are heartless, greedy, profit fiends. But there are plenty of profit opportunities they have forgone, such as gathering personal data to exploit for ad networks, which argue otherwise. So I don't buy it.
Re: Apple is lobbying Californian lawmakers against 'Right to Repair' bill
#4> "With access to proprietary guides and tools, hackers can more easily circumvent security protections, harming not only the product owner but also everyone who shares their network" Of the many consumer insults present in this entire topic, this one really shows the ridiculousness of Apple's position.
Exactly, like the guides do not leak anyway.
Re: Apple is lobbying Californian lawmakers against 'Right to Repair' bill
#5> "With access to proprietary guides and tools, hackers can more easily circumvent security protections, harming not only the product owner but also everyone who shares their network" Of the many consumer insults present in this entire topic, this one really shows the ridiculousness of Apple's position.
For that matter, if more altruistic people had access to these tools, couldn't you argue that security bugs would be found quicker as well? As of right now, it's possible that there are a million security bugs that black-hat hackers are sitting on that the average person doesn't have the tools to know about.
Isn't security-through-obscurity considered the worst kind of security?
Re: Apple is lobbying Californian lawmakers against 'Right to Repair' bill
#6If there was a right to repair and Apple released three generations of bad laptops someone else could probably fix their mistake while they were still in the denial phase.
Re: Apple is lobbying Californian lawmakers against 'Right to Repair' bill
#7> "With access to proprietary guides and tools, hackers can more easily circumvent security protections, harming not only the product owner but also everyone who shares their network" Of the many consumer insults present in this entire topic, this one really shows the ridiculousness of Apple's position.
Exactly, like the guides do not leak anyway.
The way I read GP's comment, is that security researchers have been able to find security vulnerabilities even without access to information.
Re: Apple is lobbying Californian lawmakers against 'Right to Repair' bill
#8The tradeoff here is between right to repair, and users having secure, trustworthy devices that will not spy on them. Put yourself in the shoes of an abused family member who lives with a hardware tinkerer who can pwn your device, unbeknownst to you, enabling further abuse (not talking about physical abuse necessarily here). Just to take one slice of the population as an example, Apple has many gay and trans employee…
Sorry, but what do you want to say with your comment?
Changing a broken screen does not invalidate any chips on the motherboard afaik..
Re: Apple is lobbying Californian lawmakers against 'Right to Repair' bill
#9The tradeoff here is between right to repair, and users having secure, trustworthy devices that will not spy on them. Put yourself in the shoes of an abused family member who lives with a hardware tinkerer who can pwn your device, unbeknownst to you, enabling further abuse (not talking about physical abuse necessarily here). Just to take one slice of the population as an example, Apple has many gay and trans employee…
Sorry, but what do you want to say with your comment? Changing a broken screen does not invalidate any chips on the motherboard afaik..
I think my comment is pretty clear.
Just to address your one cherry-picked hardware item:
>Changing a broken screen does not invalidate any chips on the motherboard afaik..
On some devices (those with fingerprint sensors) there are security implications.
Re: Apple is lobbying Californian lawmakers against 'Right to Repair' bill
#10Ugh! As a former Apple fanboi, this is the reason I no longer own any Apple equipment. Apple products are beautiful, and very well designed, but so is a rhinestone straitjacket.