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Launch HN: Trexo Robotics (YC W19) – Robotic Legs for Kids with Cerebral Palsy

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Launch HN: Trexo Robotics (YC W19) – Robotic Legs for Kids with Cerebral Palsy

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Hi HN community! We're Rahul and Manmeet, co-founders of Trexo Robotics (https://trexorobotics.com) At Trexo Robotics, we're building wearable robotic devices to help children with disabilities learn to walk, in many cases for the first time in their lives. Video: https://youtu.be/3LW4LJIpa2o

We are both Mechatronics undergrads from the University of Waterloo. Rahul later completed a Master's in Robotics at the University of Toronto and I've done my MBA at Rotman.

We started this a few years ago when I (Manmeet) found out that my nephew, Praneit, has Cerebral Palsy, and that he would not be able to walk. Not walking can lead to contractures, hip subluxation, and many physiological and psychological issues for kids. We wanted to change that. We decided to use our robotics background, along with help from friends and the top rehabilitation researchers in North America, and in 2016, watched my nephew take his first steps using our device. Watching Praneit walk is definitely the proudest moment of my life, and we realized that there are families all over the world that can benefit from this, so we started Trexo Robotics.

The Trexo device is available for $899 per month (via financing) or can be purchased outright for $29,900. It is an exercise and therapy tool, allowing children to get the benefits of daily walking at their homes. We decided to design it so that it attaches onto an existing walker. Currently, it only works with Rifton's Dynamic Pacer, but hopefully, we can add other walkers later on as well. Our controller allows you to modify the gait pattern to adapt to the needs of different kids and adjust the amount of force/assistance that the robot provides on each joint. We are already launched, with kids using it to walk thousands of steps daily. It has been amazing to see the interest of families. Our device is available for pre-order. Our 2019 production is already fully reserved, and we are now taking reservations for next year.

Really interested to hear the HN community's thoughts on our approach, and experiences families or others have had in this space.

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Fantastic product! Really great that you have been able to help people become empowered for themselves.

Scale: Do you need help reducing the BOM costs? You could go for economies of scale (and reuse 75% of the same BOM) and build a variant for adult rehabilitation for injured soldiers, car accident victims or others with leg injuries.

Or how about a variant that allows for anyone to use to strengthen imbalances in muscle training/development? It could be gym equipment that you get on, it takes measurements of your leg strength by putting you through its paces, then it gives you a customized workout to balance your muscles for optimum strength. These exercises for imbalance measurement aren't an exact fit to the machine but can give you an idea: https://dailyburn.com/life/fitness/muscle-imbalances-functio...

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#5

That's a great video. Are the users expected to regain some of the walking ability in the future by using these machines ? Btw, what kind of motors go into these ? they look funky :)

Thanks! We have done some case studies where we have found improvements in walking. However, the primary case is that by using this device to walk at home everyday, kids can avoid many of the complications that may arise from sitting, i.e contractures, hip subluxation and other issues.

We will be conducting clinical studies to evaluate the effectiveness of our device in helping reduce some of these complications.

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post #4

Fantastic product! Really great that you have been able to help people become empowered for themselves. Scale: Do you need help reducing the BOM costs? You could go for economies of scale (and reuse 75% of the same BOM) and build a variant for adult rehabilitation for injured soldiers, car accident victims or others with leg injuries. Or how about a variant that allows for anyone to use to strengthen imbalances in mu…

We are still producing at low quantities, but we have a pathway to bring down BOM costs with scale. In terms of other applications, the technology that we are building can evolve for other uses over time, but its not a straight replacement. We wanted to target an immediate need that we saw in the world today.

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#8

how did you determine the cost of 29K?

This price is based on our current costs of producing and servicing these units at our projected quantities. It is still quite expensive for most families, unfortunately. Our goal is to engage with insurance companies to make this more affordable and accessible for the larger population, based on the early adopters that are buying and the clinical studies we are doing.

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post #3

Could you make some comparison with ReWalk ?

The ReWalk is a great device for adults with spinal cord injury as an example. The Trexo is specifically designed for children as a therapeutic device. Compared to adults who might have had spinal cord injury, children generally do not have upper body strength and in many cases have low bone densities. By building around a walker that many children already have and use we have eliminated the risk of falling and also have the ability to increase the weight bearing over time.

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#10
post #8

how did you determine the cost of 29K?

This price is based on our current costs of producing and servicing these units at our projected quantities. It is still quite expensive for most families, unfortunately. Our goal is to engage with insurance companies to make this more affordable and accessible for the larger population, based on the early adopters that are buying and the clinical studies we are doing.

The thing that pisses me off is that there are so many startups or companies where insurance companies would benefit from providing service to product mappings much more smoothly and efficiently.

You should have to “think about wngaging with insurance companies”

There should be a fucking marketplace and a brokering system already in place that your products can be submitted to and that system gets you engaged with the insurance companies and thus your ultimate customers.

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