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Africa is giving nothing to anyone -- apart from AIDS (2008)

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Re: Africa is giving nothing to anyone -- apart from AIDS (2008)

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Post by iwr »

It's incorrect to blame the Africans. Aid failed not because people there are somewhat less civilized (hypersexual bullshit), but because foreign aid money is feeding the dictators that maintain the system. The big cash doesn't come from exports, but from naive westerners feeding them aid money. That way, whatever leader crops up, he would have a stake in maintaining a poor, half-starving people.

Africans are no different human beings, they're just subjected to the same incentives everyone else is.

Re: Africa is giving nothing to anyone -- apart from AIDS (2008)

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Post by Devilboy »

iwr wrote: post #2

It's incorrect to blame the Africans. Aid failed not because people there are somewhat less civilized (hypersexual bullshit), but because foreign aid money is feeding the dictators that maintain the system. The big cash doesn't come from exports, but from naive westerners feeding them aid money. That way, whatever leader crops up, he would have a stake in maintaining a poor, half-starving people. Africans are no diff…

What about South Africa?

Re: Africa is giving nothing to anyone -- apart from AIDS (2008)

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Post by sorbus »

iwr wrote: post #2

It's incorrect to blame the Africans. Aid failed not because people there are somewhat less civilized (hypersexual bullshit), but because foreign aid money is feeding the dictators that maintain the system. The big cash doesn't come from exports, but from naive westerners feeding them aid money. That way, whatever leader crops up, he would have a stake in maintaining a poor, half-starving people. Africans are no diff…

While that's an argument which sounds good, I find myself wondering why the population is increasing so much if the populace is half-starved. Having children when you are unable to feed yourself is extremely counterproductive.

Re: Africa is giving nothing to anyone -- apart from AIDS (2008)

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Post by alexgartrell »

sorbus wrote: post #7
iwr wrote: post #2

It's incorrect to blame the Africans. Aid failed not because people there are somewhat less civilized (hypersexual bullshit), but because foreign aid money is feeding the dictators that maintain the system. The big cash doesn't come from exports, but from naive westerners feeding them aid money. That way, whatever leader crops up, he would have a stake in maintaining a poor, half-starving people. Africans are no diff…

While that's an argument which sounds good, I find myself wondering why the population is increasing so much if the populace is half-starved. Having children when you are unable to feed yourself is extremely counterproductive.

Not if your aim is to continue your bloodline. Having a child or two to carry on your genes is a luxury for the rich, who can expect at least one child to live on through sexual maturity.

It's not rational, it's biological.

Re: Africa is giving nothing to anyone -- apart from AIDS (2008)

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Post by iwr »

Devilboy wrote: post #6
iwr wrote: post #2

It's incorrect to blame the Africans. Aid failed not because people there are somewhat less civilized (hypersexual bullshit), but because foreign aid money is feeding the dictators that maintain the system. The big cash doesn't come from exports, but from naive westerners feeding them aid money. That way, whatever leader crops up, he would have a stake in maintaining a poor, half-starving people. Africans are no diff…

What about South Africa?

South Africa doesn't receive that much aid in relative terms.
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