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Assange tried to use embassy as 'centre for spying', says Ecuador's Moreno

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> He accused Assange of repeatedly interfering in the internal affairs of other states, referencing WikiLeaks’ publication of Vatican documents in January 2019 as a recent example. “It is unfortunate that there are individuals dedicated to violating the privacy of people,” Moreno said.

Why even offer asylum then? This is literally what WikiLeaks does.

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> He accused Assange of repeatedly interfering in the internal affairs of other states, referencing WikiLeaks’ publication of Vatican documents in January 2019 as a recent example. “It is unfortunate that there are individuals dedicated to violating the privacy of people,” Moreno said. Why even offer asylum then? This is literally what WikiLeaks does .

When you lose your freedom and become a political pawn, you should act the part. You don't see Snowden shitting on Russia do you?

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post #3

> He accused Assange of repeatedly interfering in the internal affairs of other states, referencing WikiLeaks’ publication of Vatican documents in January 2019 as a recent example. “It is unfortunate that there are individuals dedicated to violating the privacy of people,” Moreno said. Why even offer asylum then? This is literally what WikiLeaks does .

When you lose your freedom and become a political pawn, you should act the part. You don't see Snowden shitting on Russia do you?

You do. [1][2] But you have a point more generally.

[1] https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/19/edward-snow...

[2] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/29/edward-snowd...

Re: Assange tried to use embassy as 'centre for spying', says Ecuador's Moreno

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> He accused Assange of repeatedly interfering in the internal affairs of other states, referencing WikiLeaks’ publication of Vatican documents in January 2019 as a recent example. “It is unfortunate that there are individuals dedicated to violating the privacy of people,” Moreno said. Why even offer asylum then? This is literally what WikiLeaks does .

"Why even offer asylum then?"

The decision of offering asylum to such a controversial figure is clearly political, and Ecuador's president has changed since then...

From what I read, since his election the current one (Moreno) pretty much has been reversing the legislation passed during the government of the former one (Correa), which is a strong supporter of Assange.

https://www.bbc.com/mundo/noticias-internacional-47902702

(in Spanish, note that in the article Correa says that one of the latest "leaks" involved people close to Moreno)

Re: Assange tried to use embassy as 'centre for spying', says Ecuador's Moreno

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Isolation is a very bad thing. Seven years is too much. Feeling wronged, with the USA after you, confined to a building for someone used to travelling the world... I can understand a behaviour that I strongly dislike, including all kind of shit suggested by the only people that supported him.

So I'm sorry for him and Snowden, but I wouldn't trust either of them in their current circumstances.

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When you lose your freedom and become a political pawn, you should act the part. You don't see Snowden shitting on Russia do you?

You do. [1][2] But you have a point more generally. [1] https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/19/edward-snow... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/29/edward-snowd...

Yeah this was what after 5 years and not saying much other than Russia is corrupt. And if he keeps it up then he may be sent to the US at any point.

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> He accused Assange of repeatedly interfering in the internal affairs of other states, referencing WikiLeaks’ publication of Vatican documents in January 2019 as a recent example. “It is unfortunate that there are individuals dedicated to violating the privacy of people,” Moreno said. Why even offer asylum then? This is literally what WikiLeaks does .

"Why even offer asylum then?" The decision of offering asylum to such a controversial figure is clearly political, and Ecuador's president has changed since then... From what I read, since his election the current one (Moreno) pretty much has been reversing the legislation passed during the government of the former one (Correa), which is a strong supporter of Assange. https://www.bbc.com/mundo/noticias-internacional-…

Wasn’t that guy Correa’s (prev prez) Vice President as well as anointed successor? Did they have a falling out of some sort?

Re: Assange tried to use embassy as 'centre for spying', says Ecuador's Moreno

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Why even offer asylum then?" The decision of offering asylum to such a controversial figure is clearly political, and Ecuador's president has changed since then... From what I read, since his election the current one (Moreno) pretty much has been reversing the legislation passed during the government of the former one (Correa), which is a strong supporter of Assange. https://www.bbc.com/mundo/noticias-internacional-…

Wasn’t that guy Correa’s (prev prez) Vice President as well as anointed successor? Did they have a falling out of some sort?

It seems so :

"(Moreno) He was nominated as the candidate for Correa's PAIS Alliance, a center-left, democratic socialist[1] political party, in the 2017 presidential election and won a narrow victory in Ecuador's second round of voting on 2 April 2017.[2] However, after his election Moreno radically shifted his political stance, breaking with Correa's legacy and making radical changes to both internal and foreign policy.

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Within months of winning the election, Moreno started moving away from his election platform,[18] thus igniting a feud with ex-president Rafael Correa.

Later that same year, through a referendum,[19] Moreno reversed several key pieces of legislation, passed by the Correa administration, that targeted wealthy individuals and banks, reversed a previous referendum allowing indefinite re-election, thereby blocking future electoral bids by Correa, and established the Consejo de Participación Ciudadana y Control Social [es] (CPCCS-T), which has supra-constitutional powers,[20] to "evaluate control authorities and judges", with the aim of removing what remains of Correa's influence."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len%C3%ADn_Moreno

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do. [1][2] But you have a point more generally. [1] https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/19/edward-snow... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/29/edward-snowd...

Yeah this was what after 5 years and not saying much other than Russia is corrupt. And if he keeps it up then he may be sent to the US at any point.

He’a worth more for the Russians inside.
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