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Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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This is a small price to pay for the censorship that has successfully defeated the scourges of white nationalism, bigotry, and general ignorance.

Oh, censorship hasn't actually achieved those things, you say? Then why the fuck are we tolerating its coordinated resurgence?!

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0. The same old authoritarian bullshit that jumpstarted reddit can now end it. It is once again time to move on to new pastures, ideally ones that can't just flip the censorship switch in the future.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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This is a small price to pay for the censorship that has successfully defeated the scourges of white nationalism, bigotry, and general ignorance. Oh, censorship hasn't actually achieved those things, you say? Then why the fuck are we tolerating its coordinated resurgence?! 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0. The same old authoritarian bullshit that jumpstarted reddit can now end it. It is once again time…

It's just a victim of the times we live in. Reddit, like Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter, simply grew too much outside of its original intention. It was a place to form anonymous communities around niche interests, but these interests started to spread into the dark elements of hate speech, child pornography, etc. When profitability comes into question, as any company wants to strive for, it has to appease.

Reddit was a nice idea, but it just got too big. Either it has to take responsibility for its users' content, and act as an editor/publisher, or it has to find a revenue stream outside of pursuing advertising revenue.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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This is a small price to pay for the censorship that has successfully defeated the scourges of white nationalism, bigotry, and general ignorance. Oh, censorship hasn't actually achieved those things, you say? Then why the fuck are we tolerating its coordinated resurgence?! 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0. The same old authoritarian bullshit that jumpstarted reddit can now end it. It is once again time…

It's just a victim of the times we live in. Reddit, like Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter, simply grew too much outside of its original intention. It was a place to form anonymous communities around niche interests, but these interests started to spread into the dark elements of hate speech, child pornography, etc. When profitability comes into question, as any company wants to strive for, it has to appease. Reddit was…

The four horsemen have always been on reddit, hence my reference to the AACS key.

The only things that have changed is that the payment processors have decided to leverage their business in a play to control speech, and that there is a good contingent of users cheering on the resulting censorship push in a shortsighted fantasy of making people better.

The latter is what I take issue with. Sure, it's really just that ignorant pop(ulist) culture has usurped the Internet. And yes that itself was unfortunately inevitable. But it's not Internet culture and there should be more uniform condemnation and outrage from the traditionally marginalized communities who took to the Internet earlier, rather than mental gymnastics justifying how censorship is great when it's deployed against today's undesirables.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just a victim of the times we live in. Reddit, like Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter, simply grew too much outside of its original intention. It was a place to form anonymous communities around niche interests, but these interests started to spread into the dark elements of hate speech, child pornography, etc. When profitability comes into question, as any company wants to strive for, it has to appease. Reddit was…

The four horsemen have always been on reddit, hence my reference to the AACS key. The only things that have changed is that the payment processors have decided to leverage their business in a play to control speech, and that there is a good contingent of users cheering on the resulting censorship push in a shortsighted fantasy of making people better. The latter is what I take issue with. Sure, it's really just that…

I think the bigger chilling effects (ie deplatforming of controversial figures) have been consequences of:

1. Depending on advertiser-model corporations for public commons during the analog to digital transition that should be nonprofit, independent and speech tolerant.

2. Fascist culture of safe spaces and coddled individuals enabled by academic faculties and admin who haven't lead by example and explained what civil debate entails: civilized disagreement and honest debate, not banning people and only inviting those we already agree with.

2b. A loss of decency, academic and civic rigor perpetuated by extended infantilism.

3. Cyberdisinhibitionism - combined with the previous, manufactured outrage/drama, out-of-line behavior, quips, ephemeral nonsense and anonymous popularity become the primary motivations for online discussion, rather than extending the physical world.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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This is a small price to pay for the censorship that has successfully defeated the scourges of white nationalism, bigotry, and general ignorance. Oh, censorship hasn't actually achieved those things, you say? Then why the fuck are we tolerating its coordinated resurgence?! 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0. The same old authoritarian bullshit that jumpstarted reddit can now end it. It is once again time…

It's just a victim of the times we live in. Reddit, like Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter, simply grew too much outside of its original intention. It was a place to form anonymous communities around niche interests, but these interests started to spread into the dark elements of hate speech, child pornography, etc. When profitability comes into question, as any company wants to strive for, it has to appease. Reddit was…

ah yes 4chan lite was supposed to turn out completely differently.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The four horsemen have always been on reddit, hence my reference to the AACS key. The only things that have changed is that the payment processors have decided to leverage their business in a play to control speech, and that there is a good contingent of users cheering on the resulting censorship push in a shortsighted fantasy of making people better. The latter is what I take issue with. Sure, it's really just that…

I think the bigger chilling effects (ie deplatforming of controversial figures) have been consequences of: 1. Depending on advertiser-model corporations for public commons during the analog to digital transition that should be nonprofit, independent and speech tolerant. 2. Fascist culture of safe spaces and coddled individuals enabled by academic faculties and admin who haven't lead by example and explained what civi…

Calling safe spaces 'fascist' offhandedly is rather extreme. such a statement should probably be explained or left out. Currently, it just looks hostile for the sake of being hostile.

Re: Reddit's /r/Piracy is deleting almost ten years of history to avoid ban

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This is a small price to pay for the censorship that has successfully defeated the scourges of white nationalism, bigotry, and general ignorance. Oh, censorship hasn't actually achieved those things, you say? Then why the fuck are we tolerating its coordinated resurgence?! 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0. The same old authoritarian bullshit that jumpstarted reddit can now end it. It is once again time…

It's just a victim of the times we live in. Reddit, like Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter, simply grew too much outside of its original intention. It was a place to form anonymous communities around niche interests, but these interests started to spread into the dark elements of hate speech, child pornography, etc. When profitability comes into question, as any company wants to strive for, it has to appease. Reddit was…

"Reddit, like Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter," ... "It was a place to form anonymous communities around niche interests"

Huh?

None of these platforms got established as primarily long tail platforms. They were meant to be potentially big with lowest common denominators (news, aggregation, social connection in education communities) and grow into niches.

Niche are topical forums and topical social networks.

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