I Miss Rails
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I Miss Rails
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Re: I Miss Rails
#2Check out https://apollokit.org/ for something similar using full-stack JS
Sysgears has some other projects that is moving towards the ability to import functional modules from npm
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#3Ember? It's supposed to be a Rails-like JS framework.
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#4Why miss it, come on back, the water's still warm and the dev is still as fast as ever in Rails. Honestly, the JS stacks all seem vastly more annoying on so many levels.
It seems like the JS ecosystem changes so fast because it knows better is possible, so it just tries to reinvent itself over and over.
The JavaScript world starts with this weird prototype based language with a syntax that looks like it might be something more class based. From there it goes to dependency bundling hell, callback hell and Christmas tree code indenting, no standard implementation, and a library required for everything under the sun (Left-pad!) And somehow this is what the cool kids are into? I never liked Rails because it was "cool" I liked it because I love getting stuff done, fast.
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#5I look forward to a comment section filled with passionate developers rejecting the author's premise, and pitching their favorite framework(s) as proof...
Thereby validating the author's premise that "the majority of the problem is just a result of fragmentation in the modern ecosystem."
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#6> if the modern equivalent of Rails already exists, please let me know!
You're in luck. Rails 5.2.3 was released 20 hours ago.
More seriously, I feel rails is still excellent and I'm happy to work with it every day. I'd be interested to hear more about what makes rails not modern? I find it a very productive framework.
EDIT: If you're talking about missing a JS equivalent of rails, do you know about Loopback? https://loopback.io/
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#7What’s the harm in using rails purely as an API? You’ll still get a lot of functionality out of the box and maybe have to write just a little bit more glue code for the JS-backed front end than what rails provides out of the box.
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#8I’ll say this: I came to Rails from Node (and before that .NET but with a way smaller scope of responsibility), and I am thoroughly convinced the author is correct. I couldn’t estimate for shit in my first few months at this job (once I had ramped) because Rails makes things that would’ve taken at least twice as long easy to do, even without gems. Plus, I have seen not even a third of the compatibility issues between our version of the framework (bit old) and up-to-date games as I saw when I was writing Node full time. Rails is the first non-“enterprise” framework I’ve felt let’s me focus on the correct level of concern for my current needs.
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#9There is a universe where there exists only 1 programming language and only a single web framework. That would be cool to experience.
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#10Rails is just very high level. The comment on meteor makes it clear why a Rails didn't exist in JS-land. Because the fundamentals are so dynamic and so in flux it becomes hard for a high level framework to gain traction when it can become outdated so quickly (though meteor was a particularly incompetent try at it and that's not the only reason for its failure). Once the community grows a stable low level stack then a Rails-like will inexorably emerge imo, but I have a feeling that React is not at that stage yet.