Another former Tesla security manager says the company spied on employees
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Another former Tesla security manager says the company spied on employees
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Re: Another former Tesla security manager says the company spied on employees
#2Url changed from https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/11/18259786/tesla-spying-emp..., which points to this.
Re: Another former Tesla security manager says the company spied on employees
#3> Whistleblowing tips can lead to fines and sanctions against companies found guilty of violating securities law.
Also, Whistleblowing can lead to personal monetary gain. [1] Not defending Tesla, but I think both sides should be presented fairly.
Re: Another former Tesla security manager says the company spied on employees
#4> Whistleblowing tips can lead to fines and sanctions against companies found guilty of violating securities law. Also, Whistleblowing can lead to personal monetary gain. [1] Not defending Tesla, but I think both sides should be presented fairly. [1] https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-44
It only leads to personal gain if there really was malfeasance though; making things up won’t get you a penny. Given that, it does seem like you’re defending Tesla, or at least playing fast and loose.
Re: Another former Tesla security manager says the company spied on employees
#5> Whistleblowing tips can lead to fines and sanctions against companies found guilty of violating securities law. Also, Whistleblowing can lead to personal monetary gain. [1] Not defending Tesla, but I think both sides should be presented fairly. [1] https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-44
It only leads to personal gain if there really was malfeasance though; making things up won’t get you a penny. Given that, it does seem like you’re defending Tesla, or at least playing fast and loose.
Even true allegations can take years to come to fruition in a whistleblower payout, assuming there is still a solvent company around to pay fines by that point.
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#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
It only leads to personal gain if there really was malfeasance though; making things up won’t get you a penny. Given that, it does seem like you’re defending Tesla, or at least playing fast and loose.
Even true allegations can take years to come to fruition in a whistleblower payout, assuming there is still a solvent company around to pay fines by that point.
Absolutely, and those years will be quite unpleasant. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of whistleblowing being a skive, or a pleasant path. “Happy like a whistleblower?” Nah.
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#7You might think that the way Tesla treats employees, like this incident and the general impression that they are being driven into burnout, has some consequences. And I think that’s exactly what we’re seeing with the generally tumultuous news that we see on Tesla lately. Heck, there’s another HN front page entry just today, about Tesla’s sudden reversal to close all stores.
It’s probably not the only factor, but I would be surprised if it is not at least a factor.
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#8In the Elon Way of Thinking, unless you 100% agree on everything and drink the cool aid and roll with rapid reversal of logic giving you whiplash, you are against the mission, and thus the enemy. Since everyone can one day disagree, and thus is potentially the enemy, the conclusion is we must spy on all internal and external entities; and when they disagree with anything, for instance, wanting a better workplace, question their motives. Another example: The SEC simply wants CEOs of a public company, you know, not to lie on twitter about material stuff like having a deal to buy-out the company... but according to Elon, the SEC simply wants to destroy Tesla; is part of a sinister network of anti-Elon forces, and can't possibly be actually watching out for investors and pensions. This is the mentality of a paranoid dictator. Short-sellers, who are to Elon are like Hillary/Muller to Trump on Twitter, are seeing a company constantly missing self-imposed goals and milestones, must also have be evil people, as opposed to simply pointing out the blatant issues on hand.
Re: Another former Tesla security manager says the company spied on employees
#9> Whistleblowing tips can lead to fines and sanctions against companies found guilty of violating securities law. Also, Whistleblowing can lead to personal monetary gain. [1] Not defending Tesla, but I think both sides should be presented fairly. [1] https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-44
On the other hand...
If a company is playing fast and loose with regulations or laws, or, more generally, peoples sanity by pushing it's employees to work a million hours a day, because it stands to gain financially from doing so.
It seems only fair whistleblowers be likewise financially incentivised.
In some ways we could consider it analogous to a Bug Bounty program.
Re: Another former Tesla security manager says the company spied on employees
#10As an aside, if you’re using company-provided computers and phones your default behavior should be to assume they are spying on you to the degree that they are recording every action you take in those devices. It’s a spectrum—many companies don’t do this at all—but you would be doing well by yourself by assuming they record and track everything. You should also assume all of your traffic while at the office (if your comapny is old school and you only have a desktop) is being recorded.