Tesla has a self-driving strategy other companies abandoned years ago
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Re: Tesla has a self-driving strategy other companies abandoned years ago
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Re: Tesla has a self-driving strategy other companies abandoned years ago
#3"Self-driving cars also benefit from lidar sensors, and the best ones cost thousands—if not tens of thousands—of dollars each. That's too expensive for an upgrade to a customer-owned vehicle. But the economics are more viable for a driverless taxi service, since the self-driving system replaces an expensive human taxi driver."
That's probably the crucial point. For now, lidar is needed for safe operation, and too expensive for mass deployment in private cars.
Re: Tesla has a self-driving strategy other companies abandoned years ago
#4Not having LiDAR for anything over level 3 self-driving capabilities seems like a very bad idea...Computer vision right now just does not have the spatial awareness that you need for self driving capabilities. I wish Tesla would work on something similar to the Kinect v3 but for long range (above 20 m).
Re: Tesla has a self-driving strategy other companies abandoned years ago
#5This is a (perhaps short-term) failure of first principles reasoning. Elon's known to favor thinking about things from first principles, and there's no theoretical reason that vision can't work. However, technical limitations might take a while to overcome.
Re: Tesla has a self-driving strategy other companies abandoned years ago
#6This is a (perhaps short-term) failure of first principles reasoning. Elon's known to favor thinking about things from first principles, and there's no theoretical reason that vision can't work. However, technical limitations might take a while to overcome.
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Re: Tesla has a self-driving strategy other companies abandoned years ago
#7Not having LiDAR for anything over level 3 self-driving capabilities seems like a very bad idea...Computer vision right now just does not have the spatial awareness that you need for self driving capabilities. I wish Tesla would work on something similar to the Kinect v3 but for long range (above 20 m).
Elon insists being theoretically right is the same as being practically right. So for example he uses the theoretically perfectly functional normal vision that humans use even if the practical implementation of today simply cannot reach the same results.
Re: Tesla has a self-driving strategy other companies abandoned years ago
#8ITT: people who think they know better than the company that has been working on this stuff day in and day out for years lol.
Re: Tesla has a self-driving strategy other companies abandoned years ago
#9Not having LiDAR for anything over level 3 self-driving capabilities seems like a very bad idea...Computer vision right now just does not have the spatial awareness that you need for self driving capabilities. I wish Tesla would work on something similar to the Kinect v3 but for long range (above 20 m).
Having LiDAR in any car for self driving seems like a prohibitively expensive idea though. For instance: See how no company has released a commercial product with LiDAR.
And I definitely think Computer Vision will get better before LiDAR gets cost competitive.
Re: Tesla has a self-driving strategy other companies abandoned years ago
#10ITT: people who think they know better than the company that has been working on this stuff day in and day out for years lol.
Well, it's a great way to inflate the stock price. Much better than saying "We'll be just another car company, when self-driving arrives".