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Re: Internet blacklist bill COICA one step closer to becoming law

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What if bit.ly and other shorteners supplant DNS for affected sites, e.g. http://bit.ly/xAwIp redirects to thepiratebay.org's address, 194.71.107.15.

Will bit.ly have to start breaking every previously shortened URL that redirects to the IP address of an offending site? Or more likely, any shortened URL that redirects to an IP address directly at all?

Re: Internet blacklist bill COICA one step closer to becoming law

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post #2

What if bit.ly and other shorteners supplant DNS for affected sites, e.g. http://bit.ly/xAwIp redirects to thepiratebay.org's address, 194.71.107.15. Will bit.ly have to start breaking every previously shortened URL that redirects to the IP address of an offending site? Or more likely, any shortened URL that redirects to an IP address directly at all?

What if there was a new service that simply takes the blacklist and "fixes" the DNS. You could type something like http://blacklis.tr/piratebay.org and get forwarded to the correct IP. They could monitise the same way OpenDNS does by providing a DNS service as well.

Re: Internet blacklist bill COICA one step closer to becoming law

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post #2

What if bit.ly and other shorteners supplant DNS for affected sites, e.g. http://bit.ly/xAwIp redirects to thepiratebay.org's address, 194.71.107.15. Will bit.ly have to start breaking every previously shortened URL that redirects to the IP address of an offending site? Or more likely, any shortened URL that redirects to an IP address directly at all?

What if there was a new service that simply takes the blacklist and "fixes" the DNS. You could type something like http://blacklis.tr/piratebay.org and get forwarded to the correct IP. They could monitise the same way OpenDNS does by providing a DNS service as well.

A service specifically designed to circumvent the blacklist would likely be blacklisted as well. I think the best (most robust) option is peer-to-peer distribution of a regularly-updated hosts file. Irritating yes, but impossible to stop without moving to an IP blacklist.

Re: Internet blacklist bill COICA one step closer to becoming law

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if there was a new service that simply takes the blacklist and "fixes" the DNS. You could type something like http://blacklis.tr/piratebay.org and get forwarded to the correct IP. They could monitise the same way OpenDNS does by providing a DNS service as well.

A service specifically designed to circumvent the blacklist would likely be blacklisted as well. I think the best (most robust) option is peer-to-peer distribution of a regularly-updated hosts file. Irritating yes, but impossible to stop without moving to an IP blacklist.

There are any number of ways to get around the blacklist, but none of them matter if they don't apply to everyone. It's about the public, not a dedicated tech-person getting around it.

Re: Internet blacklist bill COICA one step closer to becoming law

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if there was a new service that simply takes the blacklist and "fixes" the DNS. You could type something like http://blacklis.tr/piratebay.org and get forwarded to the correct IP. They could monitise the same way OpenDNS does by providing a DNS service as well.

A service specifically designed to circumvent the blacklist would likely be blacklisted as well. I think the best (most robust) option is peer-to-peer distribution of a regularly-updated hosts file. Irritating yes, but impossible to stop without moving to an IP blacklist.

Run your own local caching dns server or use one located in europe.

The law requires ISPs to filter their DNS servers, not DNS traffic on their network. If they eventually add the latter to the law, then we can start talking about using Tor to tunnel DNS traffic past the firewall.

The irony at that point will be that Tor was initially developed on a research grant from the US Navy :P

Re: Internet blacklist bill COICA one step closer to becoming law

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if there was a new service that simply takes the blacklist and "fixes" the DNS. You could type something like http://blacklis.tr/piratebay.org and get forwarded to the correct IP. They could monitise the same way OpenDNS does by providing a DNS service as well.

A service specifically designed to circumvent the blacklist would likely be blacklisted as well. I think the best (most robust) option is peer-to-peer distribution of a regularly-updated hosts file. Irritating yes, but impossible to stop without moving to an IP blacklist.

Just give the circumvention service an easy-to-remember IP, like the famous DNS servers 4.2.2.1 and 8.8.8.8.

Re: Internet blacklist bill COICA one step closer to becoming law

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What if bit.ly and other shorteners supplant DNS for affected sites, e.g. http://bit.ly/xAwIp redirects to thepiratebay.org's address, 194.71.107.15. Will bit.ly have to start breaking every previously shortened URL that redirects to the IP address of an offending site? Or more likely, any shortened URL that redirects to an IP address directly at all?

Or write a tool that auto updates from a hosted blacklist and updates your local hosts file.
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