When we got to the scanner, I opted out. Then they opted out.
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#2A positive spin on this idiotic story, nicely done. Activism need not be violent nor do people need to be yelled at or talked down to.
I still firmly believe that any TSA employee who doesn't want to be a part of this should refuse to, just as any traveller should refuse to go through the machine. But, there need not be drama. In fact, I'd say that refusal without drama and in public has a more powerful effect than any verbal argument might.
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#3This is what I have been thinking. If enough people refuse, its so inconvenient for them that they don't bother to hassle you.
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#4Never underestimate the potential for convincing an underpaid federal employee to cut corners. If you make this stuff too inconvenient for the guys on the ground, the policy gets eroded from the inside.
Until Napolitano cracks down. But that's several moves ahead.
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#5How dumb are people to not realize it's radiation one way or another? Do they think it's "magic" they can see through your clothes?
How can there be a class action lawsuit against printer ink, but not against radiating you for no reason with devices that have no track record?
Where are these devices for entering Congress or the Whitehouse if they are so safe?
So would the President choose the radiation naked picture method or the deep groping method for his daughters? I'd seriously like that question asked at some point by the press.
ps. Even if you opt-out, you are probably being exposed to whatever radiation method they use.
Note how in this photo the person in line, not just the person in the scanner is being exposed:
Re: When we got to the scanner, I opted out. Then they opted out.
#6Further proof that social engineering is, as always, far more effective than direct hacking at getting through security with a payload, even when that payload may not be bytecode.
Re: When we got to the scanner, I opted out. Then they opted out.
#7A positive spin on this idiotic story, nicely done. Activism need not be violent nor do people need to be yelled at or talked down to. I still firmly believe that any TSA employee who doesn't want to be a part of this should refuse to, just as any traveller should refuse to go through the machine. But, there need not be drama. In fact, I'd say that refusal without drama and in public has a more powerful effect than a…
> Activism need not be violent nor do people need to be yelled at or talked down to.
The lack of self-righteousness in the story was extremely refreshing.
As the author said: "Information, properly delivered, is power." Emphasis mine.
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#8I thought it was established on HN that that letter about safety had been properly addressed (it's from April).
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#9I agree that having to choose between flying and getting groped/strip-scanned or not flying is ridiculous, and I'm happy that he and others were able to circumvent this.
But he says they were using Millimeter Wave Scanners, which as far as I can tell, and contrary to his argument, do not use x-rays. That letter refers to another type of machine, x-ray backscatter scanners.
Re: When we got to the scanner, I opted out. Then they opted out.
#10How dumb are people to not realize it's radiation one way or another? Do they think it's "magic" they can see through your clothes? How can there be a class action lawsuit against printer ink, but not against radiating you for no reason with devices that have no track record? Where are these devices for entering Congress or the Whitehouse if they are so safe? So would the President choose the radiation naked picture…
> Do they think it's "magic" they can see through your clothes?
Yes.