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Seven Fixes for American Capitalism

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> “I don’t even think stasis is compatible with liberty,” he told the Washington audience. - Bezos

Suppose one were to attempt to steelman Jeff’s statement. Is there any credible basis for this statement?

Or is it just one of those things that powerful people say because it makes them sound profound and they don’t have to follow it up with substantive supporting evidence.

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> “I don’t even think stasis is compatible with liberty,” he told the Washington audience. - Bezos Suppose one were to attempt to steelman Jeff’s statement. Is there any credible basis for this statement? Or is it just one of those things that powerful people say because it makes them sound profound and they don’t have to follow it up with substantive supporting evidence.

it's an opinion, that's why he says ' i don't even -think-'. it carries no value or credibility than that of his opinions- which you can choose to value or not. besides that what liberty is is also opinion.

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> “I don’t even think stasis is compatible with liberty,” he told the Washington audience. - Bezos Suppose one were to attempt to steelman Jeff’s statement. Is there any credible basis for this statement? Or is it just one of those things that powerful people say because it makes them sound profound and they don’t have to follow it up with substantive supporting evidence.

it's an opinion, that's why he says ' i don't even -think-'. it carries no value or credibility than that of his opinions- which you can choose to value or not. besides that what liberty is is also opinion.

It's valid to ask whether there is any credible theory or evidence that he is basing his opinion on. I'm also interested in hearing whether there is.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's an opinion, that's why he says ' i don't even -think-'. it carries no value or credibility than that of his opinions- which you can choose to value or not. besides that what liberty is is also opinion.

It's valid to ask whether there is any credible theory or evidence that he is basing his opinion on. I'm also interested in hearing whether there is.

indeed. i’m not interested in merely tearing him down. i want to understand where he’s coming from, as it’s a statement I haven’t heard before.

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> “I don’t even think stasis is compatible with liberty,” he told the Washington audience. - Bezos Suppose one were to attempt to steelman Jeff’s statement. Is there any credible basis for this statement? Or is it just one of those things that powerful people say because it makes them sound profound and they don’t have to follow it up with substantive supporting evidence.

it's an opinion, that's why he says ' i don't even -think-'. it carries no value or credibility than that of his opinions- which you can choose to value or not. besides that what liberty is is also opinion.

i’m more interested in steelmanning the argument than adopting a dismissive stance, which still would be absolutely warranted as you have rightly pointed out.

also, just because liberty itself must be defined, doesn’t mean that we cannot identify common interpretations and analyze the possibilities. i’d be careful not to view relativism as a dealbreaker to fruitful discussion.

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> “I don’t even think stasis is compatible with liberty,” he told the Washington audience. - Bezos Suppose one were to attempt to steelman Jeff’s statement. Is there any credible basis for this statement? Or is it just one of those things that powerful people say because it makes them sound profound and they don’t have to follow it up with substantive supporting evidence.

Here's his full speech with context if that helps. The quote in question is on page 25.

https://www.economicclub.org/sites/default/files/transcripts...

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> “I don’t even think stasis is compatible with liberty,” he told the Washington audience. - Bezos Suppose one were to attempt to steelman Jeff’s statement. Is there any credible basis for this statement? Or is it just one of those things that powerful people say because it makes them sound profound and they don’t have to follow it up with substantive supporting evidence.

I'll play:

So if our governance became static it would be safe to assume that it would be unable to adapt to changing culture. For that government to be continually effective it would then need to enforce that it's constituents' values and lifestyles are unchanging, which seems antithetical to the concept of liberty.

In practice we see this since totalitarian regimes work to suppress and homogenize their populations.

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It's not an issue of having good ideas. The issue is really about execution and consensus building.

We need to stop propping up 'the choosen one' type leaders and we will see change. I want boring people elected ala Merkel.

Starting all the way back from Clinton\Bush\Obama\Trump to AOC these leaders are the wrong fit to make change happen in polarized times. They are great for media rating but not much else.

I want to see a non-charismatic figure who is not evaluated by how much dopamine they produce in my head through an instagram pic or a cool speech.

I am tired of these leaders who think that's the route. They have all failed. I can't believe no one sees that.

Re: Seven Fixes for American Capitalism

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The title implies Capitalism is broken. It's not. Capitalism has provided more benefits to more people than any other economic system in history. American Capitalism has produced the telephone, the automobile, the personal computer, the cell phone, the internet, and made us one of the richest countries in the world.

A better title would be, Tweaks that can make American Capitalism Better.

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