Ghosting: Job candidates turn tables on employers
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Ghosting: Job candidates turn tables on employers
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Re: Ghosting: Job candidates turn tables on employers
#2Also worth reading the comments.
Tldr: employees are now treating employers the way the employees have been treated.
Re: Ghosting: Job candidates turn tables on employers
#3We've had success in team ghosting useless product managers, eventually (after 2 years without any output) causing them to leave (out of their own volition, because apparently being hired by C levels protects you from being terminated because it would reflect bad on the hiring C level).
Keeping up a trickle stream of half-baked work[0] (to prevent you from being accused of being "non-supportive") worked fine.
[0] matching the half-baked ideas we were supported to implement
Re: Ghosting: Job candidates turn tables on employers
#4We've had success in team ghosting useless product managers, eventually (after 2 years without any output) causing them to leave (out of their own volition, because apparently being hired by C levels protects you from being terminated because it would reflect bad on the hiring C level). Keeping up a trickle stream of half-baked work[0] (to prevent you from being accused of being "non-supportive") worked fine. [0] mat…
Seems to be a natural consequence of poor leadership. No concerted effort required.
Re: Ghosting: Job candidates turn tables on employers
#5We've had success in team ghosting useless product managers, eventually (after 2 years without any output) causing them to leave (out of their own volition, because apparently being hired by C levels protects you from being terminated because it would reflect bad on the hiring C level). Keeping up a trickle stream of half-baked work[0] (to prevent you from being accused of being "non-supportive") worked fine. [0] mat…
Seems kind of cowardly, to be honest.
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#6I thought “ghosting” was when I never talk to someone again and there’s no closure to the relationship because I don’t answer any contact [0].
This article describes employees resigning with no notice and employers rescinding job offers days before start. Neither of these are ghosting as they involve notice. They are certainly rude, but something other than ghosting.
Also, if you incur costs as a result of a job offer that is not fulfilled, it’s a pretty easy lawsuit to recoup damages. If the company can’t afford to pay, then that’s a failure of due diligence on the employees fault. It’s not that expensive to do a $5-10k small claims lawsuit and certainly affordable given the pretty massive cushion emergency fund I have to have to pull my kids out of school and move across the country. “The candidate accepted and HR instructed him to give notice at the old job immediately. He did.”
Re: Ghosting: Job candidates turn tables on employers
#7These rescinded job offers after someone has uprooted their life, assuming that the offer can be proven (written is best!) surely promissory estoppel applies and some kind of remedy is a slam dunk?
Re: Ghosting: Job candidates turn tables on employers
#8I thought “ghosting” was when I never talk to someone again and there’s no closure to the relationship because I don’t answer any contact [0]. This article describes employees resigning with no notice and employers rescinding job offers days before start. Neither of these are ghosting as they involve notice. They are certainly rude, but something other than ghosting. Also, if you incur costs as a result of a job offe…
>employees resigning with no notice
>involve notice
The wiki article you link even mentions the use of the word in regards to employment.
>Ghosting is not limited to only intimate relationship contexts. It can also happen between friends or even family members,[20] and be practiced by employers with prospective candidates.
Re: Ghosting: Job candidates turn tables on employers
#9I thought “ghosting” was when I never talk to someone again and there’s no closure to the relationship because I don’t answer any contact [0]. This article describes employees resigning with no notice and employers rescinding job offers days before start. Neither of these are ghosting as they involve notice. They are certainly rude, but something other than ghosting. Also, if you incur costs as a result of a job offe…
>employees resigning with no notice >involve notice The wiki article you link even mentions the use of the word in regards to employment. >Ghosting is not limited to only intimate relationship contexts. It can also happen between friends or even family members,[20] and be practiced by employers with prospective candidates.
Sorry, I meant “resigninging with no two weeks notice.” I think of “giving notice” as the professional practice of giving a time period between resigning and ceasing work. They still resigned. I would consider ghosting if they just left and never said anything.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
>employees resigning with no notice >involve notice The wiki article you link even mentions the use of the word in regards to employment. >Ghosting is not limited to only intimate relationship contexts. It can also happen between friends or even family members,[20] and be practiced by employers with prospective candidates.
Sorry, I meant “resigninging with no two weeks notice.” I think of “giving notice” as the professional practice of giving a time period between resigning and ceasing work. They still resigned. I would consider ghosting if they just left and never said anything.
>I would consider ghosting if they just left and never said anything.
But that is what the article is describing. The initial question goes "It just happened at work. Someone “ghosted” their job! A man in his 20s just disappeared without saying goodbye or I quit."