Microsoft Issues Windows 10 Upgrade Warning
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Re: Microsoft Issues Windows 10 Upgrade Warning
#2I am glad that Windows is an opt-out of updates. We all know the majority of people never update anything. Personally I opt out and manually update my systems but most people just need it to happen.
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#3It's not a warning - this only affects new PCs shipped with the latest version, not upgraders.
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#4I'm always impressed by people's creative ability to put a negative spin on almost anything. Particularly to generate hate-clicks.
In this case they're implementing Seamless Updates, which should substantially reduce downtime and improve roll-backs during update installation (a major complaint) but instead of focusing on the benefit, they focus on the disk space loss.
The reason it takes up space on Windows, Android, and Chrome OS is that the reserved area holds a chunk of the operating system which is updated in the background before restart. When a restart occurs, the reserved and active slices are swapped (and reversion can be rapidly conducted for failures/roll-backs).
This is a nice quality of life improvement for a common complaint.
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#5I don't understand why the updates take up so much space -- 7GB according to the article.
Re: Microsoft Issues Windows 10 Upgrade Warning
#6I am glad that Windows is an opt-out of updates. We all know the majority of people never update anything. Personally I opt out and manually update my systems but most people just need it to happen.
I see it in my family and loved ones - while it's unfortunate that sometimes windows decides it really needs to restart RIGHT NOW, the fact that it's doing that is the only reason the PC is getting updated at all - they never turn them off and they never update on their own. There should absolutely be options for those of us who know enough to make the choice, but sometimes taking choice away seems like the better option.
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#7I am glad that Windows is an opt-out of updates. We all know the majority of people never update anything. Personally I opt out and manually update my systems but most people just need it to happen.
Tell that to the person who got his personal files flushed automagically by a Windows update.
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#8I can't answer this because the most likely location for the answer [1] is locked behind a beta program access or something, but where do they plan on taking the reserved storage from? I assume they're not going to try to repartition the drive? It sounds like they're just using filesystem features to carve it out of an existing partition, but I'd like to be sure. My laptop is currently dual-boot, but if Microsoft starts blindly mucking with partition tables it's gonna go single-boot Linux right quick. (I expect it's not that, but I'd like to be sure.)
As long as they're staying out of the partition table, this sounds like a good idea to me, honestly.
[1]: https://insider.windows.com/en-us/ih/?contentid=2762bf7a-bef...
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#9Interesting... Microsoft is forcing everyone to update their machines for quite some time... I've noticed that MS is forcing updates on my machine about a year ago and out of frustration I asked about it on this forum four months ago (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18029216)
Please try it. Go to Computer Management/Services and Applications/Services and then stop and disable Windows Updates. It's a matter of days before it will be back and running again.
My next machine is going to be Apple.
Re: Microsoft Issues Windows 10 Upgrade Warning
#10I'm always impressed by people's creative ability to put a negative spin on almost anything. Particularly to generate hate-clicks. In this case they're implementing Seamless Updates, which should substantially reduce downtime and improve roll-backs during update installation (a major complaint) but instead of focusing on the benefit, they focus on the disk space loss. The reason it takes up space on Windows, Android,…
it's a nice quality of life improvement unless you're running low on space. 7+ gb is a lot, especially on embedded devices with low soldered storage - like microsoft's own products!
coincidentally instead of offering upgradeable internal storage they upsell really hard on the models with more storage in their surface lineup
if anything, this should be a toggle- if only an opt-out toggle.
fwiw, you can install a linux system including an entire graphical stack with web browser and mail client in that space, twice.