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Oslo made its city center basically car-free

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Re: Oslo made its city center basically car-free

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I seriously think that San Francisco can benefit from this. Each zone in SF is actually very small - and very walkable. In my extreme SF transport utopia - SF would only allow pedestrians, bikes, and electric muni transport in certain regions of the city.

I think most of the metros in the US can handle this quite well. The last mile is far easier to solve in a city than a suburb.

Re: Oslo made its city center basically car-free

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Oslo is still heavily lacking in bike accessibility, more so than the article presents.

New bike paths are around the periphery of the center. In the city center, there are close to zero bike parking spots. Everyone who wants to take the bike to work, must have parking in the workplace. In addition the tram tracks on many streets are a hazard to taking the bike. But things are improving here slowly

Public transport though is probably the best in the world per capita, with subway, buses or trams going every couple of minutes. So this compensates (as the article states). Overall the reduction of cars is a great improvement overall.

Re: Oslo made its city center basically car-free

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Huh. I didn't realize Oslo hadn't done this yet. All (or most) European City centers are car free.

> All (or most) European City centers are car free.

I don't know how someone can say something so obviously and demonstrably false with a straight face.

Re: Oslo made its city center basically car-free

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I want this so bad. My hatred for the automobile grows every day. The cost, the noise, the time wasted in traffic, the pollution, the ridiculous space wasted on parking. When you really add up the costs, both individual and to society, it’s absolutely insane. I wish the cost of gasoline was high enough to internalize all the costs and change behavior. Like really high. A dollar a mile. We are slaves to the automobile in so many ways.

I’d love to see a major metro area in the US do this. San Francisco would actually be a decent candidate for this. Market St + 4 blocks in each direction.

Cities existed before without cars and I suspect they will exist again after they leave. Sucks that I had to live in the time period with them.

Life is more than just figuring out how quickly and cheaply you can go from one place to another. I feel like a lot of you are missing that.

Re: Oslo made its city center basically car-free

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I seriously think that San Francisco can benefit from this. Each zone in SF is actually very small - and very walkable. In my extreme SF transport utopia - SF would only allow pedestrians, bikes, and electric muni transport in certain regions of the city.

Market and Geary would be the best candidates for this. Traffic is so bad in these areas it’s kind of pointless anyway. All the traffic is just thru traffic.
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