Patreon Bars Anti-Feminist for Racist Speech, Inciting Revolt
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Re: Patreon Bars Anti-Feminist for Racist Speech, Inciting Revolt
#2The real meat of the racist speech:
>"This month, the site’s moderators received a complaint about Mr. Benjamin, who had risen to fame railing against diversity and feminism during the GamerGate movement in 2014. Mr. Benjamin used the N-word and anti-gay language during an interview posted to YouTube on Feb. 7, Patreon found."
I could be wrong, but I'm under the impression Benjamin used that word to insult white supremacists, whom he evidently does not count himself among. It wasn't very smart of him to think everybody would be okay with it just because he chose the 'right' target.
Re: Patreon Bars Anti-Feminist for Racist Speech, Inciting Revolt
#3Am I the only one surprised that Patreon employs 170 people?
Re: Patreon Bars Anti-Feminist for Racist Speech, Inciting Revolt
#4The real meat of the racist speech: > "This month, the site’s moderators received a complaint about Mr. Benjamin, who had risen to fame railing against diversity and feminism during the GamerGate movement in 2014. Mr. Benjamin used the N-word and anti-gay language during an interview posted to YouTube on Feb. 7, Patreon found." I could be wrong, but I'm under the impression Benjamin used that word to insult white sup…
I don't agree with his choice of words, and I think its kinda weird that he chose to express himself the way he did when there was a much easier way to go about making the same remark, but that said, it's simply amoral to try and cutoff someone's living and censor them just because the way they said something wasn't to your liking (to be clear I'm not talking about you in particular, but just people in general who think what patreon did was ok).
Re: Patreon Bars Anti-Feminist for Racist Speech, Inciting Revolt
#5The real meat of the racist speech: > "This month, the site’s moderators received a complaint about Mr. Benjamin, who had risen to fame railing against diversity and feminism during the GamerGate movement in 2014. Mr. Benjamin used the N-word and anti-gay language during an interview posted to YouTube on Feb. 7, Patreon found." I could be wrong, but I'm under the impression Benjamin used that word to insult white sup…
Our descendants are going to be seriously confused by our practice of limiting or taking away people's ability to earn money because they publicly used a wrong word. Or so I hope, at least.
Re: Patreon Bars Anti-Feminist for Racist Speech, Inciting Revolt
#6Am I the only one surprised that Patreon employs 170 people?
I'm surprised that it only takes 17 of them to moderate. That seems like a very low number, given how big Patreon has gotten.
Re: Patreon Bars Anti-Feminist for Racist Speech, Inciting Revolt
#7The real meat of the racist speech: > "This month, the site’s moderators received a complaint about Mr. Benjamin, who had risen to fame railing against diversity and feminism during the GamerGate movement in 2014. Mr. Benjamin used the N-word and anti-gay language during an interview posted to YouTube on Feb. 7, Patreon found." I could be wrong, but I'm under the impression Benjamin used that word to insult white sup…
I don't agree with his choice of words, and I think its kinda weird that he chose to express himself the way he did when there was a much easier way to go about making the same remark, but that said, it's simply amoral to try and cutoff someone's living and censor them just because the way they said something wasn't to your liking (to be clear I'm not talking about you in particular, but just people in general who th…
> it's simply amoral to try and cutoff someone's living and censor them just because the way they said something wasn't to your liking
Would it be immoral (or amoral, either one) of my employer to fire me employed if I gave a tech talk and started throwing the N-word around?
Patreon has fairly clear rules on behavior; they're not obligated to keep anyone as their client if they start breaking them.
Re: Patreon Bars Anti-Feminist for Racist Speech, Inciting Revolt
#8The real meat of the racist speech: > "This month, the site’s moderators received a complaint about Mr. Benjamin, who had risen to fame railing against diversity and feminism during the GamerGate movement in 2014. Mr. Benjamin used the N-word and anti-gay language during an interview posted to YouTube on Feb. 7, Patreon found." I could be wrong, but I'm under the impression Benjamin used that word to insult white sup…
What did he say, exactly? This sounds like a possible use-mention distinction problem to me.
Re: Patreon Bars Anti-Feminist for Racist Speech, Inciting Revolt
#9The real meat of the racist speech: > "This month, the site’s moderators received a complaint about Mr. Benjamin, who had risen to fame railing against diversity and feminism during the GamerGate movement in 2014. Mr. Benjamin used the N-word and anti-gay language during an interview posted to YouTube on Feb. 7, Patreon found." I could be wrong, but I'm under the impression Benjamin used that word to insult white sup…
Our descendants are going to be seriously confused by our practice of limiting or taking away people's ability to earn money because they publicly used a wrong word. Or so I hope, at least.
> taking away people's ability to earn money
On a single platform. Nobody's preventing Mr. Benjamin from making money; they're just not allowing him to use one specific platform.
He's welcome to sign up for Hatreon, or to use a payment processor directly.
Re: Patreon Bars Anti-Feminist for Racist Speech, Inciting Revolt
#10The real meat of the racist speech: > "This month, the site’s moderators received a complaint about Mr. Benjamin, who had risen to fame railing against diversity and feminism during the GamerGate movement in 2014. Mr. Benjamin used the N-word and anti-gay language during an interview posted to YouTube on Feb. 7, Patreon found." I could be wrong, but I'm under the impression Benjamin used that word to insult white sup…
Our descendants are going to be seriously confused by our practice of limiting or taking away people's ability to earn money because they publicly used a wrong word. Or so I hope, at least.
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