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The End of the Ad-Supported Web

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Re: The End of the Ad-Supported Web

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Well I'm not sure i believe that the web is truly moving away from ads in as big a way as being claimed here. The trends in news groups are clear, but for each of the other examples there are counterparts that do run ads, ie Netflix and Hulu, and Spotify and Pandora.

Don't get me wrong, i would love to see a change just like anyone else here, but I'm not sure I'm seeing it yet.

Additionally i enjoyed this other article more as it goes into their proposed solution: https://medium.com/unlock-protocol/its-time-to-unlock-the-we...

Re: The End of the Ad-Supported Web

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Ad companies got caught putting their hand in the cookie jar and people have had enough.

There's nothing wrong with an ad supported web, but it got abused, with tracking going too far and ad companies constantly trying to defeat privacy-protecting features. They have no one to blame but themselves.

Re: The End of the Ad-Supported Web

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On the content side, I wonder if the problem is deeper. People want easy money and the large IT companies are simply facilitating. After all if I create enough crap content I might eventually write a book about parrots: https://www.wisebread.com/how-a-teenager-started-a-multi-mil...

Re: The End of the Ad-Supported Web

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Ad companies got caught putting their hand in the cookie jar and people have had enough. There's nothing wrong with an ad supported web, but it got abused, with tracking going too far and ad companies constantly trying to defeat privacy-protecting features. They have no one to blame but themselves.

> There's nothing wrong with an ad supported web

I very much disagree with this statement. I simply can't stand ads in my internet and uBlock Origin is the first thing I install in a fresh browser. I can't fathom browsing the web without it anymore.

Re: The End of the Ad-Supported Web

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Ad companies got caught putting their hand in the cookie jar and people have had enough. There's nothing wrong with an ad supported web, but it got abused, with tracking going too far and ad companies constantly trying to defeat privacy-protecting features. They have no one to blame but themselves.

> There's nothing wrong with an ad supported web I very much disagree with this statement. I simply can't stand ads in my internet and uBlock Origin is the first thing I install in a fresh browser. I can't fathom browsing the web without it anymore.

Who do you think should sponsor the creation of arts and the publication of news?

I'd be okay with increasing taxes to cover it, or using a UK-style TV license (Internet Publishing License anyone?) and requiring people seek "Internet commissioners" like we have for Television[1], [2].

[1]: http://www.pbs.org/about/producing-pbs/proposal-process/

[2]: https://www.bbc.co.uk/commissioning

Another option is micropayments, but I worry bugs and fraud would then steal consumers' dollars instead of Advertisers'.

Re: The End of the Ad-Supported Web

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Ad companies got caught putting their hand in the cookie jar and people have had enough. There's nothing wrong with an ad supported web, but it got abused, with tracking going too far and ad companies constantly trying to defeat privacy-protecting features. They have no one to blame but themselves.

> There's nothing wrong with an ad supported web I very much disagree with this statement. I simply can't stand ads in my internet and uBlock Origin is the first thing I install in a fresh browser. I can't fathom browsing the web without it anymore.

The point is that the reason you feel the need to immediately block ads is because of how they have been abused and pushed to further and further absurdity over the years.

Re: The End of the Ad-Supported Web

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's nothing wrong with an ad supported web I very much disagree with this statement. I simply can't stand ads in my internet and uBlock Origin is the first thing I install in a fresh browser. I can't fathom browsing the web without it anymore.

Who do you think should sponsor the creation of arts and the publication of news? I'd be okay with increasing taxes to cover it, or using a UK-style TV license (Internet Publishing License anyone?) and requiring people seek "Internet commissioners" like we have for Television[1], [2]. [1]: http://www.pbs.org/about/producing-pbs/proposal-process/ [2]: https://www.bbc.co.uk/commissioning Another option is micropayments…

> a UK-style TV license (Internet Publishing License anyone?)

Germany sort of does that already. From 2006 to 2012 internet-connected devices were considered broadcast receivers for the purpose of the broadcast fees. Since 2012 the fee was simplified to a general per-household broadcast fee which reduced the fairly data collection the agency had to do to know who had which kind receiver.

The internet presence of the public-service broadcasters is also financed through those fees.

Re: The End of the Ad-Supported Web

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post #8

This is close to an advertisement, written by the founder of https://unlock-protocol.com , a distributed web payments scheme using some bitcoin competitor.

And of course it's a blockchain with smart contracts.

Not that it's inherently a bad approach, but it's very much a fad that's often applied without thinking.

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