Students Evaluating Teachers Doesn’t Just Hurt Teachers, It Hurts Students
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#2"They are no doubt imprecise, but for a majority of the faculty the scores form a tight bunch around a mean. Newer faculty are likely to have lower scores, so it is often times useful to sit down with them and review the feedback and talk about ways to improve. A few faculty members continually score higher than average, and I want to know why--perhaps they can help do some mentoring with the lower scoring faculty."
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#3Evaluations are one of the extremely few levers students actually have to pull when dealing with a terrible teacher. I'd expect that given an entire class' worth of evaluations you'd be able to strip outliers and get some genuine useful responses.
Though the worst professor I had at RPI held our grades hostage until the evaluations were in, so they're not perfect.
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#4The purpose of the review should be purely to provide feedback to the instructor and TA. It should not be available to the administration - the purpose is to help the TA and instructors improve their teaching. Especially if the instructors have tenure and so can’t be fired for failing to teach.
Ratings should also be scaled to control for biases - what are the average grades given by each student, how do they compare to other students in their classes, and to their course grade.
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#5University is a place of higher learning, not higher teaching.
If you're relying on being spoon fed the course, you're doing it wrong.
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#6Regarding professors wanting to keep review data tightly sealed: in my view, if you can't by public disclosure of your evaluation, then you either don't feel you're meeting expectations, or have no desire to improve in areas where students feel improvement could be made.
Also, the biases pointed out in these reviews aren't unique to academia. Gender and age biases exist everywhere. This article sounds like it's just pushing the idea that students should have less influence in the hiring and promotion decisions of professors. You know, the very people that the teachers first and foremost serve at a university.
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#7My best advice I got about college teaching: University is a place of higher learning, not higher teaching. If you're relying on being spoon fed the course, you're doing it wrong.
From an individual standpoint, sure, a student is always well-advised to take charge of their own learning process. But if you can do that, what do you need a university for?
At this point I'm pretty sure the answer boils down to "a piece of paper and a dating pool."
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#8I'm pretty skeptical of the claims in this - it'd be interesting to see actual data. Evaluations are one of the extremely few levers students actually have to pull when dealing with a terrible teacher. I'd expect that given an entire class' worth of evaluations you'd be able to strip outliers and get some genuine useful responses. Though the worst professor I had at RPI held our grades hostage until the evaluations w…
Just set a threshold - such as “scores an average of < 4/10”. If the score is below that threshold, invest a little more time and effort into getting more detailed evaluations and figuring out why the score is low and whether it’s a genuine problem with the professor vs something like their having high standards and lazy students. Then train or fire as appropriate.
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#9I'm pretty skeptical of the claims in this - it'd be interesting to see actual data. Evaluations are one of the extremely few levers students actually have to pull when dealing with a terrible teacher. I'd expect that given an entire class' worth of evaluations you'd be able to strip outliers and get some genuine useful responses. Though the worst professor I had at RPI held our grades hostage until the evaluations w…
Also if you look at literally any study of them TAs for harder courses get harsher ratings, they get harsher ratings from weaker students.
I also spent a number of years as a TA I can say anecdotally that is my exact first hand experience - good reviews in easy courses like graphics, atrocious scores in design of concurrent systems. In fact for concurrent systems it was well known that the TA for the course would literally always get the lowest review rating in the department, and that was independent of their rating in any other courses that they TAd.
TAs also get punished if the actual instructor is bad - because students blame everyone in the course.
I mean the American system has its own slew of problems - lecturers run the tests themselves, they by design don’t provide prior exams (hint: if knowing the prior years exam questions tells you enough to be considered your exams are bad and you should feel bad)
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#10We pushed very hard at my alma mater to publicize course/teacher evaluations. We eventually got the University to accept iff a minimum participation rate was met (on a per course basis-- so it wasn't all or nothing. We'd get a subset of the data when enough participation occurred. We considered this reasonable, since if very few students participate, the data isn't all that meaningful). Regarding professors wanting t…