American Civil Liberties Union, RIP

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Post by randomname2 » Sat, Nov 17, 2018, 5:58 PM UTC

American Civil Liberties Union, RIP
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Post by presidentender » Sat, Nov 17, 2018, 6:19 PM UTC

I agree with the article, but it doesn't belong on HN.

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Post by microcolonel » Sat, Nov 17, 2018, 6:20 PM UTC

I fear that, given the culture that seems to be permeating law schools, no legal advocacy group will step up to fill the principled role that ACLU has abandoned, and the republic will fall again for the same boring reasons it always does.

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Post by awakeasleep » Sat, Nov 17, 2018, 6:21 PM UTC

One good thing to come of this is that I learned about https://www.thefire.org which seems to be picking up the baton where the ACLU dropped it (in terms of education advocacy.)

Here is their take on Title IX https://www.thefire.org/new-proposed-title-ix-regulations-fe...

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Post by AGoodName » Sat, Nov 17, 2018, 6:27 PM UTC

This post simply doesn't belong here on HN at all. I've flagged this.

Also i'm looking at the list of cases the ACLU is fighting https://www.aclu.org/defending-our-rights/court-battles

Things i see: A case preventing NSA widespread wiretapping, A case forcing authorities to obtain warrants for cellphone history, An FOI request for the use of widespread wiretapping, A case to force Nevada to provide legal representation for those who cannot afford it A challenge against the consitutionality of an executive order signed by the president A case against declaring people "enemy combatants" and claiming they have no rights

Can you think of a more positive organization? I suspect some people don't like some of the cases the ACLU brings but that's the whole point of the ACLU. They are there to make sure everything is correctly challenged in court, they have had cases where they have supported the far right an the far left. If the volunteer lawyers of the ACLU bring something that you think has no merit to court and they win don't blame the ACLU. Blame the laws. The ACLU are the one organization ensuring laws are correctly tested and implemented.