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A Look Inside the Tactics of Definers, Facebook’s Attack Dog

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Re: A Look Inside the Tactics of Definers, Facebook’s Attack Dog

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Key takeaways:

1. Before Ms. Sandberg’s Senate testimony, Facebook lobbyists pushed lawmakers to refrain from questioning her about privacy, censorship and other issues, and to stick to election interference. The committee’s chairman, Senator Richard Burr, Republican of North Carolina, was swayed and warned members to stick to the hearing’s planned topic, The Times reported Wednesday.

2. Facebook had also lobbied for the hearing to include a Google emissary of similar rank to Ms. Sandberg. Mr. Burr invited Larry Page, a Google co-founder, but he did not show up.

3. In an email days before the hearing, a Definers employee pressed a Times reporter to write that Facebook was taking the senators’ concerns seriously while Google was irresponsible for skipping the hearing.

4. The day before the hearing, NTK Network reported that Senator Marco Rubio, Republican of Florida, had suggested that Google was possibly a monopoly.

5. Those pieces were just two of at least 11 negative items NTK has posted about Google since late March.

Facebook really seems butthurt about Google. Instead of learning from Google about being transpernt on how they use user data, they basically dragged Google in the controversy, and I would say they have been pretty successful.

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Key takeaways: 1. Before Ms. Sandberg’s Senate testimony, Facebook lobbyists pushed lawmakers to refrain from questioning her about privacy, censorship and other issues, and to stick to election interference. The committee’s chairman, Senator Richard Burr, Republican of North Carolina, was swayed and warned members to stick to the hearing’s planned topic, The Times reported Wednesday. 2. Facebook had also lobbied for…

“Instead of learning from Google about being transpernt on how they use user data”

I am curious evidences of this. Or are you comparing objectively with the two relative to recent events? Then sure. FB’s been very sketchy all this time with little knowing until the whole election interference and Cambridge scandal went public and viral did people pay attention.

But thanks for the takeaways.

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I have not closed my account, as I don't want to entirely lose touch with a bunch of people. But I've decided I'm not going to log in more than once a month. I just can't in good conscience let them rent my eyeballs or use my content any more.

I've pretty much been running in that mode for a while now (though maybe more on average once per week). It's fine. As long as you don't engage in any commentary on other people's stuff, you naturally gravitate away from checking. The content is usually not that interesting. The moment you write anything there, you get an emotional stake in checking its progress.

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And whose attack dog is the NYTimes? This is the 2nd hitpiece on facebook by the nytimes on the frontpage as of this moment. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18462671

Facebook can stop hitpieces when they learn to not make terrible decisions.

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And whose attack dog is the NYTimes? This is the 2nd hitpiece on facebook by the nytimes on the frontpage as of this moment. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18462671

The Times has been on an anti-tech crusade for months now.

america destroying its own tech companies. these ppl really are 'enemy of the ppl'.
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