How I lost my faith in Lisp (2002)
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Re: How I lost my faith in Lisp (2002)
#2This is "famous". Look, here is a Japanese translation:
http://web.archive.org/web/20021113063322/http://www.gembook...
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Re: How I lost my faith in Lisp (2002)
#3(2002) I believe. I wonder where the author stands now? 16 years is plenty of time to get your faith back and lose it again.
Re: How I lost my faith in Lisp (2002)
#4Re: How I lost my faith in Lisp (2002)
#5Meanwhile, I ported Arc to JS: https://imgur.com/0Ba0NZN
If LN turns into anything, it'll be because of Lisp, not in spite of it. It really doesn't matter that the world is phobic to it when you alone are the blacksmith.
One could argue "See? It's running in JS. Doesn't that mean Lisp is useless?"
Maybe. But macros are a thing. And when you can generate React on the fly, without having to make a class for every single thing you want to do, the power disparity starts becoming very apparent.
There are interesting Lisp codebases, but you have to dig for them. Abuse (a game engine) comes to mind. http://abuse.zoy.org/browser/abuse/trunk/data/lisp
And what other language could let you add type inference with relatively little effort? https://web.archive.org/web/20070610012057/http://www.cs.ind...
https://web.archive.org/web/20070615124421fw_/http://www.cs....
Re: How I lost my faith in Lisp (2002)
#6(2002) I believe. I wonder where the author stands now? 16 years is plenty of time to get your faith back and lose it again.
you could ask him yourself. these days he goes by the name "ron garret," and he commented right here on this site only an hour ago.
Re: How I lost my faith in Lisp (2002)
#7Previous threads: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2308370 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=107683
On one of these I like the comment "You sound like an English speaker claiming that English is easier for people to understand than other languages. "
well yeah of course english is easier, else there wouldn't be these kind of tables : https://www.effectivelanguagelearning.com/language-guide/lan...
There's no equality amongst languages. Japanese students have to get up and do one hour of kanji learning every year from 8 years old to 18 years old in addition to normal language classes for instance - there's nothing comparable in english.
Re: How I lost my faith in Lisp (2002)
#8Previous threads: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2308370 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=107683
On one of these I like the comment "You sound like an English speaker claiming that English is easier for people to understand than other languages. " well yeah of course english is easier, else there wouldn't be these kind of tables : https://www.effectivelanguagelearning.com/language-guide/lan... There's no equality amongst languages. Japanese students have to get up and do one hour of kanji learning every year fro…
Adults don’t have to go that route though. I learned all the kanji from daily use through college level (some 3,500 or so) in a few months of study. You might as well point to the massive number of root vocabulary English has and make the same argument that English would be crazy difficult to learn (and you’d be equally right).
Re: How I lost my faith in Lisp (2002)
#9How do I view this without logging into Google?
Re: How I lost my faith in Lisp (2002)
#10(2002) I believe. I wonder where the author stands now? 16 years is plenty of time to get your faith back and lose it again.
you could ask him yourself. these days he goes by the name "ron garret," and he commented right here on this site only an hour ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=lisper
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