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Feds: Chinese spies orchestrated hack that stole aviation secrets

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>Besides using spear phishing, watering holes, malware, and domain hijackings, prosecutors said, the defendants also recruited employees of some of the targeted companies to infect corporate networks and provide intelligence about investigations.

This lines up with having a Chinese spy in California Senator Diane Feinstein's office: Being both a California Senator and a 'Gang of Eight' intelligence member, the Chinese could be alerted early on about potential investigations or indictments.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/Sen-...

We've seen several indictments of Chinese nationals since this story broke.

Edit: Actually the previous indictment I had in mind was the original arrest of the agent, this is just building on that case: http://www.atimes.com/article/chinese-agent-indicted-in-jet-...

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Why is this sort of racism in headlines permitted simply because the event in question is sponsored by a government?

Yes, I understand that the adjective used to describe actors in the PRC government and the adjective used to describe the ethnic group of 1bn+ that live under that government is the same; but perhaps they shouldn’t be for this very reason.

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post #3

Why is this sort of racism in headlines permitted simply because the event in question is sponsored by a government? Yes, I understand that the adjective used to describe actors in the PRC government and the adjective used to describe the ethnic group of 1bn+ that live under that government is the same; but perhaps they shouldn’t be for this very reason.

I dont see any racism in headline?

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post #3

Why is this sort of racism in headlines permitted simply because the event in question is sponsored by a government? Yes, I understand that the adjective used to describe actors in the PRC government and the adjective used to describe the ethnic group of 1bn+ that live under that government is the same; but perhaps they shouldn’t be for this very reason.

I dont see any racism in headline?

I suppose it's perpetuating the idea that a government is representative of all its people: the spies are from the people of China, as opposed to the government of the PRC.

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Why is this sort of racism in headlines permitted simply because the event in question is sponsored by a government? Yes, I understand that the adjective used to describe actors in the PRC government and the adjective used to describe the ethnic group of 1bn+ that live under that government is the same; but perhaps they shouldn’t be for this very reason.

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Re: Feds: Chinese spies orchestrated hack that stole aviation secrets

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post #3

Why is this sort of racism in headlines permitted simply because the event in question is sponsored by a government? Yes, I understand that the adjective used to describe actors in the PRC government and the adjective used to describe the ethnic group of 1bn+ that live under that government is the same; but perhaps they shouldn’t be for this very reason.

It's ok to single out nationalities such as Chinese or Russian as long as it feeds the standard leftist narrative. $(BadThing) + "Chinese" or "Russian" is a good headline for spreading political FUD, while "black" or "muslim" is politically incorrect heresy. Any pejorative hints against women will get you summarily executed.

Re: Feds: Chinese spies orchestrated hack that stole aviation secrets

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>Besides using spear phishing, watering holes, malware, and domain hijackings, prosecutors said, the defendants also recruited employees of some of the targeted companies to infect corporate networks and provide intelligence about investigations. This lines up with having a Chinese spy in California Senator Diane Feinstein's office: Being both a California Senator and a 'Gang of Eight' intelligence member, the Chines…

> This lines up with having a Chinese spy in California Senator Diane Feinstein's office

That's not really an accurate description of what happened. Here's Feinstein's statement:

"Five years ago the FBI informed me it had concerns that an administrative member of my California staff was potentially being sought out by the Chinese government to provide information. He was not a mole or a spy, but someone who a foreign intelligence service thought it could recruit.

The FBI reviewed the matter, shared its concerns with me and the employee immediately left my office. He never had access to classified or sensitive information or legislative matters. The FBI never informed me of any compromise of national security information."

Nothing in your article or any other reputable sources I've read conflict with that statement.

From your article:

'“He didn’t even know what was happening — that he was being recruited,” says our source. “He just thought it was some friend.”

The FBI apparently concluded the driver hadn’t revealed anything of substance.

“They interviewed him, and Dianne forced him to retire, and that was the end of it,” says our source.'

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When we were discussing the Bloomberg story, I replied a couple of times to people hypothesizing maybe it was an American government conspiracy to turn people against China. My reply is that we didn't need to make up such stories, because we've got plenty of much better sourced ones already. For those who were wondering, here's an example. It still isn't proof, of course, but I think we can generally agree it's almost certainly better sourced than the Bloomberg story, which is all I'm going for here.

Re: Feds: Chinese spies orchestrated hack that stole aviation secrets

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>Besides using spear phishing, watering holes, malware, and domain hijackings, prosecutors said, the defendants also recruited employees of some of the targeted companies to infect corporate networks and provide intelligence about investigations. This lines up with having a Chinese spy in California Senator Diane Feinstein's office: Being both a California Senator and a 'Gang of Eight' intelligence member, the Chines…

> This lines up with having a Chinese spy in California Senator Diane Feinstein's office That's not really an accurate description of what happened. Here's Feinstein's statement: "Five years ago the FBI informed me it had concerns that an administrative member of my California staff was potentially being sought out by the Chinese government to provide information. He was not a mole or a spy, but someone who a foreign…

Confused, why is this downvoted? Is it wrong?

Update: Funny, now the comment is upvoted and my question is downvoted :-)

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