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Re: Monica – Personal CRM, Remember everything about friends and family

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Was excited to see this because there is a serious lack of good contact managers / address book software and signed up to their demo right away but was quite disappointed to see their default options for adding a new contact were: 1. First Name 2. Last Name 3. Gender: Male / Female / I'd rather not say

I would not trust the software from a project that thinks the third most important thing about a person is their gender and certainly not trust them from their perception that there are only two valid genders or "lets not talk about it"

Re: Monica – Personal CRM, Remember everything about friends and family

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I really like the idea and I did something similar with regular note-taking apps. The thing that would be a game-changer for me would be to link up my social/messaging/email accounts in order to (automatically) update information about when I last talked/chatted/interacted with someone.

Yes, it somewhat goes against the principle of absolute privacy, but I wouldn't mind the feature on my own server.

Re: Monica – Personal CRM, Remember everything about friends and family

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post #2

Was excited to see this because there is a serious lack of good contact managers / address book software and signed up to their demo right away but was quite disappointed to see their default options for adding a new contact were: 1. First Name 2. Last Name 3. Gender: Male / Female / I'd rather not say I would not trust the software from a project that thinks the third most important thing about a person is their gen…

> Features:

> Management of contact field types

> Ability to set custom genders

There's no way to please everyone with defaults, that's why things are configurable. Being so negative because they likely went with a simple majority config (from their perspective) by default for a field that is such a minor part of the whole system is ludicrous.

Re: Monica – Personal CRM, Remember everything about friends and family

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post #2

Was excited to see this because there is a serious lack of good contact managers / address book software and signed up to their demo right away but was quite disappointed to see their default options for adding a new contact were: 1. First Name 2. Last Name 3. Gender: Male / Female / I'd rather not say I would not trust the software from a project that thinks the third most important thing about a person is their gen…

File an issue and discuss this or commit a merge request that includes the options you think are missing.

While I'm with you politically: If a narrow perception on gender was a reason for not using a specific software, I probably couldn't use any software at all.

AFAIK, Microsoft, Apple, Google and others don't give you more options in this regard either. So I find it quite harsh to abandon a small project like this but accept what you get from bigger companies.

Re: Monica – Personal CRM, Remember everything about friends and family

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Interesting. That fills a niche that's been empty for me since I left Facebook, and I love that it's open source and can be self hosted.

The pricing for the hosted version seems a little steep though, especially for something based entirely on manual input. At $5/month that's about half of what I pay for office/onedrive, and more than I pay for 1password. That's a big ask for a service that falls more into the 'neat' category.

Re: Monica – Personal CRM, Remember everything about friends and family

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Would have loved to try this (I know hundreds of people, but I only interact with them every few months), but this is unnecessarily hard to install. I would have to change my webserver config just to run this, which seems really strange for a PHP application... And I'm a sysadmin! Not sure if I want to deal with this in the long term, if even installing it is a pain.

Re: Monica – Personal CRM, Remember everything about friends and family

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Would have loved to try this (I know hundreds of people, but I only interact with them every few months), but this is unnecessarily hard to install. I would have to change my webserver config just to run this, which seems really strange for a PHP application... And I'm a sysadmin! Not sure if I want to deal with this in the long term, if even installing it is a pain.

Why not use Docker?

https://github.com/monicahq/monica/blob/master/docs/installa...

Re: Monica – Personal CRM, Remember everything about friends and family

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I personally use FullContact for this purpose with custom fields and notes. I love that it syncs with my contacts on iOS and google.

You should be aware that FullContact is known to sell customers data.

I didn’t know that either and have tried the iOS App once but did not upload anything to them, I just wanted to see what the App could do/how it feels like. Then I read their Privacy Police and ToS and did some searching. I very quickly decided that this is not a service I’d want to use.

So I send them a GDPR request demanding the deletion of my account and all associated data. They replied back that I had to use their ‘Privacy Center’ to do that myself. Horrible site, let me tell you.. Anyways, I noticed that in their Privacy Policy they state that they won’t delete your data even if you request that. They’ll just flag it as blocked. So in theory once you upload something to FullContact you have no chance of getting it off of their servers. They claim that this is to ‘protect you’ and to ‘ensure that your data won’t accidentally land back on their system’ somehow.

I had to send them a very stern email threatening legal action and mentioning some personal contacts I have to some federal law enforcement officer who works privacy cases to even get an answer that was more than ‘please use our privacy center to delete your data/account’.

Finally I got back some generic email stating that all my data was deleted. Some canned response thing though. I highly suspect that they still have my data on their system.

I highly suggest not to use the service of FullContact!

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