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Apple cares about privacy so much, they let Google do the dirty part of the business and just take the checks.

Ignoring that you can change the search engine, what Google knows about a user using Google search on an iPhone, and a user using search on a Google Play Android device are extraordinarily different. Let's not pretend at some false equivalency here.

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Apple cares about privacy so much, they let Google do the dirty part of the business and just take the checks.

Google search seems to be deteorating but it is still the best one out there. I tried to switch to DDG and found myself using the !g trick to get google result way too often.

Re: Finance makes Apple and Google forced friends

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Apple cares about privacy so much, they let Google do the dirty part of the business and just take the checks.

Ignoring that you can change the search engine, what Google knows about a user using Google search on an iPhone, and a user using search on a Google Play Android device are extraordinarily different. Let's not pretend at some false equivalency here.

Apple says 'Privacy is a Human right' and continuously positioned/marketed itself as the champion of privacy especially over last year when FB and GOOG are in news reg. various privacy violation issues. Now, the article estimates over 10% of profits made by Apple are from Google because it sets Google as default search engine on a browser which comes default. So, Apple doesn't really believe what it says to the world based on its actions here and the way it folded in China reg. iCloud.

Re: Finance makes Apple and Google forced friends

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Apple cares about privacy so much, they let Google do the dirty part of the business and just take the checks.

Google search seems to be deteorating but it is still the best one out there. I tried to switch to DDG and found myself using the !g trick to get google result way too often.

I started using it a few months ago and I find it's good enough probably 90% of the time. It's often enough that it's not really a pain.

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I often hear the argument that Apple respects user privacy because their business model is selling hardware, not user data. However, they are making billions of dollars by letting Google sell data for them.

The user in the end chooses to use google however.

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I often hear the argument that Apple respects user privacy because their business model is selling hardware, not user data. However, they are making billions of dollars by letting Google sell data for them.

The user in the end chooses to use google however.

Default presets are not the user "choosing" something. It's why companies always choose the opt-out method vs opt-in.

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The user in the end chooses to use google however.

Default presets are not the user "choosing" something. It's why companies always choose the opt-out method vs opt-in.

I've tried a variety of search engines and I always end up going back to Google. They're just better overall for me.

That's been my experience and based on that I can see it being justifiable for Apple (who is after all a very opinionated company) taking a similar stand: we don't like defaulting to Google but they're just the best game in town so if we want the iPhone to be the best phone out of the box it needs to default to Google.

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