UK cyber security agency backs Apple, Amazon China hack denials
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Re: UK cyber security agency backs Apple, Amazon China hack denials
#2Ok, it definitely happened.
Re: UK cyber security agency backs Apple, Amazon China hack denials
#3Does it seem a little odd for the 5 eyes to be weighing in while the us gov is silent? I am not sure how to read this but it is weird. I have never seen them make a public statement on a hack in a way specific to specific companies (and not others mentioned in the bloomberg article).
Even if taken at face value, it can only mean 2 things. 1. They already, thouroughly investigated it (draw your own conclusions what they found or any involvement) or 2. They just issued an official statement without possibly having the time to investigate the merits of the accusation. This not only doesn't pass the sniff test, its evidince of yet another turd on our lawn.
Re: UK cyber security agency backs Apple, Amazon China hack denials
#4Does it seem a little odd for the 5 eyes to be weighing in while the us gov is silent? I am not sure how to read this but it is weird. I have never seen them make a public statement on a hack in a way specific to specific companies (and not others mentioned in the bloomberg article). Even if taken at face value, it can only mean 2 things. 1. They already, thouroughly investigated it (draw your own conclusions what th…
> Does it seem a little odd for the 5 eyes to be weighing in while the us gov is silent?
Chances are, American intelligence has been running counterintelligence operations through this network. That leaves lots of people in American intelligence who would prefer this remain a secret, without a similar restriction elsewhere.
Re: UK cyber security agency backs Apple, Amazon China hack denials
#5Does it seem a little odd for the 5 eyes to be weighing in while the us gov is silent? I am not sure how to read this but it is weird. I have never seen them make a public statement on a hack in a way specific to specific companies (and not others mentioned in the bloomberg article). Even if taken at face value, it can only mean 2 things. 1. They already, thouroughly investigated it (draw your own conclusions what th…
The big question is whether it's your neighbor's turd or your neighbor's dog's turd.
Re: 1, if they investigated it then that means that "it" was something in the first place thus warranting the investigation.
Re: 2, that's the kind of thing you do when you need to inject uncertainty into the situation to buy yourself or your buddies time to tie up loose ends/burn evidence/figure out what story they'll tell the politicians.
Re: UK cyber security agency backs Apple, Amazon China hack denials
#6"Trust me, we know a thing or two about adding malicious chips to systems."
- GCHQ, probably
Re: UK cyber security agency backs Apple, Amazon China hack denials
#7It could also be possible that these companies are legally bound by some sort of investigation-related order to maintain ignorance to the presence of the chips and that Bloomberg have just sunk an ongoing investigation/counter-espionage operation, potentially putting an associated intelligence network at risk.
Re: UK cyber security agency backs Apple, Amazon China hack denials
#8Does it seem a little odd for the 5 eyes to be weighing in while the us gov is silent? I am not sure how to read this but it is weird. I have never seen them make a public statement on a hack in a way specific to specific companies (and not others mentioned in the bloomberg article). Even if taken at face value, it can only mean 2 things. 1. They already, thouroughly investigated it (draw your own conclusions what th…
What if it was the 5 eyes who are responsible in the first place (knowing that the targeted services are used all over the world) and now they want to
a) officially deny anything happend
b) unofficially shift the blame to China
Whatever happens, my popcorn is ready.
Re: UK cyber security agency backs Apple, Amazon China hack denials
#9It could also be possible that these companies are legally bound by some sort of investigation-related order to maintain ignorance to the presence of the chips and that Bloomberg have just sunk an ongoing investigation/counter-espionage operation, potentially putting an associated intelligence network at risk.
This seems preposterous to me. We are not in China here.
Re: UK cyber security agency backs Apple, Amazon China hack denials
#10“We are aware of the media reports but at this stage have no reason to doubt the detailed assessments made by AWS and Apple,”
This is a pretty mild statement, would not say it backs Apple and Amazon.