Ex-Google Employee Urges Lawmakers to Take on Company
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Re: Ex-Google Employee Urges Lawmakers to Take on Company
#2My take in the issue is that Google is being mismanaged. China will not allow a foreign company to compete against its home grown search engines, so why bother? By bowing to Chinese censorship, Google hurts its public image. Google's management should have expected that its employees, who joined Google on the premise of "Do not evil", would leak this to the public. In short, the people at the top of Google look like fools to me.
Re: Ex-Google Employee Urges Lawmakers to Take on Company
#3My take in the issue is that Google is being mismanaged. China will not allow a foreign company to compete against its home grown search engines, so why bother? By bowing to Chinese censorship, Google hurts its public image. Google's management should have expected that its employees, who joined Google on the premise of "Do not evil", would leak this to the public. In short, the people at the top of Google look like…
The people at the top of Google are rich and have the freedom and resources to work on things that interest them.
Also, this is an old issue, Google in China.
I'm sure they won't start caring what a few outspoken individuals think by this point.
Re: Ex-Google Employee Urges Lawmakers to Take on Company
#4My take in the issue is that Google is being mismanaged. China will not allow a foreign company to compete against its home grown search engines, so why bother? By bowing to Chinese censorship, Google hurts its public image. Google's management should have expected that its employees, who joined Google on the premise of "Do not evil", would leak this to the public. In short, the people at the top of Google look like…
>China will not allow a foreign company to compete against its home grown search engines, so why bother?
Bing is allowed in china
>Google hurts its public image
Sure some people get hurts but for some other, for example if I can use google service without having to mess with vpn, it would be convenient.
Re: Ex-Google Employee Urges Lawmakers to Take on Company
#5Fundamental issue is the expectation that all public companies must keep growing and show profits quarter after quarter, year after year. This is obviously unsustainable.
It is like a treadmill that keeps increasing speed. If you slow down, you are thrown out.
If consecutive quarterly results are not good, CEO is typically thrown out. This pressure forces management to make unnatural decisions that might help short-term, but will hurt long-term. What we are seeing with Google with all of these recent events/decisions is a result of this, IMO.
Re: Ex-Google Employee Urges Lawmakers to Take on Company
#6Brian Acton or anyone else feeling guilty about their ad-tech wealth: use your winnings to lobby for a federal privacy bill that is as strong and comprehensive as GDPR (and other EU privacy regulations).
The industry is moving to enact something that maintains the status quo [1].
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/26/technology/tech-industry-...
Re: Ex-Google Employee Urges Lawmakers to Take on Company
#7I actually applaud Poulson for leaving Google in protest of Google's Chinese business practices.
Having mentioned that, I think I have to part ways with him when he implies that the correct way to "fix" this is to have the government come in and make these sorts of business decisions for the company. I don't believe in the government obliging businesses to do things. Especially when it looks like this whole thing is Google specific. That's unfair to Google.
What about all the other American companies doing business in China? Do they get to keep doing business because they are politically popular companies but Google is not? Or would this be a government mandate of a broad based American pull out?
Or just forcing Google to let its employees have a say in how it's run? (But again, you gonna force every company? Or just Google?)
Etc etc etc.
Once government gets involved and starts playing favorites, everything gets messed up.
Re: Ex-Google Employee Urges Lawmakers to Take on Company
#8My take in the issue is that Google is being mismanaged. China will not allow a foreign company to compete against its home grown search engines, so why bother? By bowing to Chinese censorship, Google hurts its public image. Google's management should have expected that its employees, who joined Google on the premise of "Do not evil", would leak this to the public. In short, the people at the top of Google look like…
The people at the top of Google are rich and have the freedom and resources to work on things that interest them. Also, this is an old issue, Google in China. I'm sure they won't start caring what a few outspoken individuals think by this point.
So what do you suggest instead?
Re: Ex-Google Employee Urges Lawmakers to Take on Company
#9A good thing to keep in mind is that there are hundreds of thousands of ex-googlers. The fact that one or more of them holds this belief is virtually assured.
Re: Ex-Google Employee Urges Lawmakers to Take on Company
#10My take in the issue is that Google is being mismanaged. China will not allow a foreign company to compete against its home grown search engines, so why bother? By bowing to Chinese censorship, Google hurts its public image. Google's management should have expected that its employees, who joined Google on the premise of "Do not evil", would leak this to the public. In short, the people at the top of Google look like…
>China will not allow a foreign company to compete against its home grown search engines, so why bother? Bing is allowed in china >Google hurts its public image Sure some people get hurts but for some other, for example if I can use google service without having to mess with vpn, it would be convenient.
>> China will not allow a foreign company to compete against its home grown search engines, so why bother?
> Bing is allowed in china
It's probably more accurate to say the Chinese government will not allow a foreign company to out-compete one of its local champion companies. The Chinese government is probably fine with Google being a minor player, but they'd start to have issues if it starts dominating Baidu.