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UK Surveillance Regime Violated Human Rights

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Re: UK Surveillance Regime Violated Human Rights

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The UK has a pretty poor human rights records lately and they don't really seem to care about it (Assange).

I wholeheartedly disagree with the UK's mass surveillance and the media/public's wilful ignorance of the issue but Assange is suspected of sexual assault and broke bail. He's expected to face the law in the same way as anybody else.

Re: UK Surveillance Regime Violated Human Rights

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The UK has a pretty poor human rights records lately and they don't really seem to care about it (Assange).

I wholeheartedly disagree with the UK's mass surveillance and the media/public's wilful ignorance of the issue but Assange is suspected of sexual assault and broke bail. He's expected to face the law in the same way as anybody else.

The warrant for his arrest has been revoked by Sweden and the Swedish prosecutor found he committed no crime. He is not expected to face the law as anyone else, the UK government has already committed crimes in deleting emails regarding him but nobody went to jail. The UN has also ruled that he is being held in arbitrary detention. The only time you get punished is when you go against the US empire. Who was punished for the murder of the two journalists in Baghdad? You only face the law when you are inconvenient.

Due to the embarrassment of the CIA w/r/t to the recent leaks the US government is going to try to prosecute a publisher of classified information for the first time ever.

Re: UK Surveillance Regime Violated Human Rights

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wholeheartedly disagree with the UK's mass surveillance and the media/public's wilful ignorance of the issue but Assange is suspected of sexual assault and broke bail. He's expected to face the law in the same way as anybody else.

The warrant for his arrest has been revoked by Sweden and the Swedish prosecutor found he committed no crime. He is not expected to face the law as anyone else, the UK government has already committed crimes in deleting emails regarding him but nobody went to jail. The UN has also ruled that he is being held in arbitrary detention. The only time you get punished is when you go against the US empire. Who was punished…

To be fair I don't think deleting emails in accordance with their procedures is a crime. And that being the case why would anyone go to jail?

Re: UK Surveillance Regime Violated Human Rights

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wholeheartedly disagree with the UK's mass surveillance and the media/public's wilful ignorance of the issue but Assange is suspected of sexual assault and broke bail. He's expected to face the law in the same way as anybody else.

The warrant for his arrest has been revoked by Sweden and the Swedish prosecutor found he committed no crime. He is not expected to face the law as anyone else, the UK government has already committed crimes in deleting emails regarding him but nobody went to jail. The UN has also ruled that he is being held in arbitrary detention. The only time you get punished is when you go against the US empire. Who was punished…

He has committed crimes in the UK that he is wanted for. The charges in Sweden were dropped for practical reasons, something the UK should also have done. It's a sunk cost fallacy, they've spent a huge amount of time and money trying to arrest him despite it not being practical.

Re: UK Surveillance Regime Violated Human Rights

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I suspect this is a pattern when it comes to spying and internet surveillance now. Don't expect the NSA's activities would be in accordance to many human rights laws, and likely similar for other 'Five Eyes' countries and countries trying to snoop on internet traffic in general.

The issue is that there seems to be no organisation with the power to enforce said rules on the countries/governments/organisations doing this.

Re: UK Surveillance Regime Violated Human Rights

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The warrant for his arrest has been revoked by Sweden and the Swedish prosecutor found he committed no crime. He is not expected to face the law as anyone else, the UK government has already committed crimes in deleting emails regarding him but nobody went to jail. The UN has also ruled that he is being held in arbitrary detention. The only time you get punished is when you go against the US empire. Who was punished…

To be fair I don't think deleting emails in accordance with their procedures is a crime. And that being the case why would anyone go to jail?

There is no reason to expect their procedures are legal, this thread is an example of government procedure shown to be illegal.

Re: UK Surveillance Regime Violated Human Rights

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I suspect this is a pattern when it comes to spying and internet surveillance now. Don't expect the NSA's activities would be in accordance to many human rights laws, and likely similar for other 'Five Eyes' countries and countries trying to snoop on internet traffic in general. The issue is that there seems to be no organisation with the power to enforce said rules on the countries/governments/organisations doing th…

> The issue is that there seems to be no organisation with the power to enforce said rules on the countries/governments/organisations doing this.

Is that not the role of the public/voters? Assuming they are informed and not apathetic of course.

Re: UK Surveillance Regime Violated Human Rights

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The UK has a pretty poor human rights records lately and they don't really seem to care about it (Assange).

I wholeheartedly disagree with the UK's mass surveillance and the media/public's wilful ignorance of the issue but Assange is suspected of sexual assault and broke bail. He's expected to face the law in the same way as anybody else.

Authoritarian regimes using courts against dissenters is not new, this is like saying yes he is a dissenter but the court process must be allowed to complete.

How is it that after the Snowden revelations not a single person is held responsible or accountable and its the whistle blowers who are facing the full force of the 'law'?

Assange is stranded, Snowden is in exile and Manning faced the full force of the law. What law is this?

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