China’s all-seeing surveillance network
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China’s all-seeing surveillance network
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#2Better title - Social credit: China's digital dictatorship
Pretty horrifying story, sounds like Black Mirror.
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#3I think the concept of social credit has a lot of merits. But the risk for overreach is substantial unfortunately.
I'd love to get rid of people who are unable to ride a train like a social human from the trains and lock people out of cinemas who can't behave as one should expect.
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#4I think this is a horrible idea.
Just imagine how many times we have been wrong in our judgement of the behaviour of citizens. What would the social credit score of Ghandi or Martin Luther Kind have been, at the time of their prominent actions?
We have proven time and time again that there is no sure way to judge how "social and acceptable" something is, and the value of a behaviour to our society.
What is seen as "unsocial" today may be applauded by historians in the future.
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#5This system is similar to ones already operating in MMORPG. And I'm sure that system in China is being exploited already. Finally only exploiters will get all the benefits leaving regular people far behind.
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#6Future job role: Sesame Credit Optimisation (SCO)
There's going to be so many ways to game this system when it gains wider adoption, it's going to be insane.
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#7So much for chinese dominance as a superpower, they are really shooting themselves in the foot with even trying this.
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#8Better title - Social credit: China's digital dictatorship Pretty horrifying story, sounds like Black Mirror.
Yeah, the title is awful - I was happier with the article then I thought I'd be, as it did go in to some of the negative points. To point to any atomic automatic judgment of ones citizens based on their beliefs as a good thing is a bit of a weird view, however. The examples they give are all terrifying.
It's also not great that the lady they report as pro social credit is only revealed later on in the piece as being married to a high ranking party member. She's introduced as "a marketing professional" when I'd argue the most relevant facts towards her support/non-support of such a system would be that she is married to "a civil servant in the justice department, a loyal cadre to the party."
The article makes several strange emotional appeals regarding her, actually. For instance, I'm glad she "married for love", but I don't see why it would be relevant to the issue at hand unless it was an attempt to further humanize her and, by extension, this new Permanent Spotlight system.
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#9> Every step she takes, every one of her actions big or small — even what she thinks — can be tracked and judged. [emphasis added]
Can anybody shed upon how these Social Credit systems would be able to track what a person thinks?
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#10This system is similar to ones already operating in MMORPG. And I'm sure that system in China is being exploited already. Finally only exploiters will get all the benefits leaving regular people far behind.
I'd say your actions as a citizen would only net you -100 to
+100 points. If you really wanted the 'heaven on earth' they promise you would need a friend in government to give you the ol communist loyal bonus of +500, or loyal party member bonus of +1000 purchasable from your local party rep for only 5,000,000 RMB.